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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 09:00 PM Original message |
Jingoistic nationalism does nothing for me. I don't want to "compete" with the world. |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
1. the K and the R, but your comments so eloquently echo my own thoughts... |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 09:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Thank you. I felt very sad last night. Nothing about poverty, nothing about how many U.S. citizens |
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Safetykitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 09:22 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. So did I. Where was the defense of our people that are needing help? |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 09:28 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Well, in the glorious New World Order of our Plutocrat Overlords, THEY decide who is worthy |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 09:28 PM Response to Reply #6 |
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Green_Lantern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:07 PM Response to Reply #6 |
179. he did mention jobs you just don't like the solutions offered... |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 08:10 PM Response to Reply #179 |
202. You're right. I didn't like the solutions offered. |
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Green_Lantern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-28-11 02:17 PM Response to Reply #202 |
225. you sure argue out of both sides of your mouth |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-28-11 06:51 PM Response to Reply #225 |
232. I don't think you bothered to read what I actually said. |
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Safetykitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
2. What a fantastic post. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 09:19 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Thank you. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
3. Scarletwoman, you have always understood. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 09:25 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. "It takes the sweat of their labor and returns very little by way of health and safety measures." |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 10:18 AM Response to Reply #3 |
88. You're lucky to be able to get a spousal visa |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:43 PM Response to Reply #88 |
185. I am lucky and... |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 07:27 PM Response to Reply #88 |
196. You couldn't get any type of visa for Japan? |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 09:04 PM Response to Reply #196 |
207. Yes, but it's hard for people over 40 |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 09:39 PM Response to Reply #207 |
215. Oh, yeah, I forgot about that |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 10:27 AM Response to Reply #3 |
93. Plus one! |
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RandomThoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 09:09 PM Response to Original message |
4. Part of it is they want to lower population. |
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chillspike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 09:15 PM Response to Original message |
5. Amen |
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sulphurdunn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 09:11 PM Response to Reply #5 |
211. Especially with online dating |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
7. You don't? Well, I do. |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 09:55 PM Response to Reply #7 |
28. Yep. That would be enough competition for me................ |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 09:19 PM Response to Original message |
9. Pretty awesome post. |
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Peace Monger (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
10. oh but you see, therein lies the rub, |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 09:49 PM Response to Reply #10 |
25. Thank you. And welcome to DU. |
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Green_Lantern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:15 PM Response to Reply #25 |
182. it's not peace...it is fear.. |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 09:29 PM Response to Original message |
15. great post! |
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Wind Dancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
16. Beautifully written!!! |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 10:56 PM Response to Reply #16 |
47. Thank you. (nt) |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
17. But..but..the rat race is is wholesome and someday you might have more stuff than other people. |
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warren pease (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 09:39 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Remember, even if you win the rat race... |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 10:09 PM Response to Reply #17 |
33. As old as I am now, what I most sincerely wish is to have LESS stuff. |
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ThatPoetGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
18. Strongly disagree. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 10:00 PM Response to Reply #18 |
32. Not sure I see your point. It hardly matters where something is invented, what matters is where |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 08:35 AM Response to Reply #18 |
72. Your final "or" clause? We are there. |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 11:06 AM Response to Reply #18 |
107. But... |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 12:55 PM Response to Reply #18 |
134. ThatPoetGuy |
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barbiegeek (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 03:07 PM Response to Reply #18 |
160. You are Right. You are not alone. I agree with you |
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sudopod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:57 PM Response to Reply #18 |
186. Ever heard of tarriffs? nt |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 06:48 PM Response to Reply #18 |
194. Where is the "disagree"? |
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warren pease (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
20. What the hell's so great about being a world leader? |
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Green_Lantern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:23 PM Response to Reply #20 |
183. you just want to wallow in the past which is just a clever way.. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 08:33 PM Response to Reply #183 |
206. Our best chance of making a better world is for the common people to throw off the parasite class |
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Green_Lantern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-28-11 02:03 PM Response to Reply #206 |
224. before you criticized the "elites" for deeming certain people |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-28-11 07:41 PM Response to Reply #224 |
237. "Most businesses aren't multinational corporations." And since I never said a word against any |
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warren pease (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-28-11 02:42 PM Response to Reply #183 |
227. Ordinary people are contributing to a better world all over the globe... |
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Green_Lantern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-28-11 03:06 PM Response to Reply #227 |
229. what do you even mean |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 07:45 AM Response to Reply #229 |
238. That ain't no solution |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
21. K&R |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
22. That's a great vision, and not in conflict |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 10:21 PM Response to Reply #22 |
37. I don't agree. The SOTU was all about "winning" -- and peppered with references to beating |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 10:28 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. "The only ones who are competing on the world stage are the OWNERS. " |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 10:45 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. Why don't you ask all the unemployed textile workers in S. Carolina? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 10:59 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. That's exactly the point. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:09 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. More than that, it must be accompanied by the WILL to take care of our own. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:18 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. The Owners must not be cut out of the equation. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:40 PM Response to Reply #51 |
60. Which is what |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 12:17 AM Response to Reply #60 |
62. You're making the neoliberal, supply side, "free" market argument. I reject it. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 12:26 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. No, I'm not. |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-28-11 02:03 PM Response to Reply #63 |
223. But |
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RufusTFirefly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 01:55 PM Response to Reply #51 |
153. "As long as the situation is framed as 'competition', the ordinary U.S. worker is going to lose." |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 08:17 PM Response to Reply #153 |
203. I'll always be a happy heretic. |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 10:28 AM Response to Reply #48 |
95. There's the place where your assumptions don't match up with reality. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 01:27 PM Response to Reply #95 |
145. He's talking about what centrists "say" in their speeches, not what they end up actually doing. |
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BobbyBoring (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:52 PM Response to Reply #39 |
174. Has a U.S. company ever |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 10:35 AM Response to Reply #37 |
97. PLUS ONE! |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 12:24 PM Response to Reply #37 |
124. But how do you "take care of our own people?" |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 01:02 PM Response to Reply #124 |
139. I would think that means providing people with the safety net found in Canada and Europe. |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 01:12 PM Response to Reply #139 |
142. Safety nets are great... |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 01:50 PM Response to Reply #142 |
151. That's the irony. With safety nets, Canadians and Europeans excel in international trade. |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:42 PM Response to Reply #151 |
173. The irony is further compounded when one actually pays attention to our GDP |
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pacalo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:23 PM Response to Reply #142 |
167. Good grief, she's talking about ideas -- good ones that would eliminate a lot of what's gone wrong |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:39 PM Response to Reply #167 |
170. The irony in all this is that SOTU speeches have been morphed more into a pep rally by the president |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 01:16 PM Response to Reply #124 |
143. "taking care of our own people" used to be Democratic Party Policy. |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 02:19 PM Response to Reply #143 |
155. Sounds good, but beyond the power of any president. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 02:40 PM Response to Reply #155 |
156. Beyond the power of the president to implement?...OK |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 03:32 PM Response to Reply #156 |
163. I don't think we can go in that direction. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 06:24 PM Response to Reply #163 |
190. Yes. We. Can. |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 08:05 PM Response to Reply #155 |
201. Its actually a very easy concept... We as a country still have quite a bit of power and say. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 09:06 PM Response to Reply #124 |
208. Funny thing, a really good start would be single payer health care. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 02:51 PM Response to Reply #22 |
158. "It's all about how to get the US to move in the direction....." That's rhetoric. |
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JackDragna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
23. A million times, this. |
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WoodyM (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 09:19 PM Response to Reply #23 |
213. And you gain nothing |
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varelse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
24. K&R |
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Autumn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
26. Such an eloquent post by |
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Populist_Prole (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
27. What a great missive. K&R |
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craigmatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
29. We're a service, white collar economy. Wealth and geo political power has always been controlled by |
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Ramulux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
30. Couldn't have put it better |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:31 PM Response to Reply #30 |
57. There's a significant irony in all this. If we were actually setting an EXAMPLE of taking care |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 08:35 AM Response to Reply #57 |
71. Well said. Taking care of our own would set an example for other nations. |
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Earth_First (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
31. BRAVO! |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
34. kr and thank you |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 10:11 PM Response to Original message |
35. it's very Clintonesque though and typically American |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 10:38 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. But why would we lose? We are quite capable of taking care of most of our needs. |
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thesquanderer (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 09:28 AM Response to Reply #40 |
81. It's our fault, and the alternative is protectionism/isolationism |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 10:24 AM Response to Reply #81 |
91. But that's the "race to the bottom" spiral epitomized |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-28-11 07:17 PM Response to Reply #91 |
235. I've neglected to thank you for your excellent posts on this thread up to now. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 11:16 AM Response to Reply #40 |
108. clearly we cannot |
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BobbyBoring (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:06 PM Response to Reply #108 |
178. That's true |
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Ex Lurker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 07:09 PM Response to Reply #108 |
195. large sections of the country would be nearly uninhabited without autombiles |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-28-11 01:10 AM Response to Reply #195 |
221. yet almost all of the country was settled before the automobile was invented |
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Ex Lurker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-28-11 04:47 PM Response to Reply #221 |
230. good points nt |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 09:07 PM Response to Reply #108 |
209. Yes, I had a higher standard of living in Portland than here |
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somone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
36. Recommended |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 10:24 PM Response to Original message |
38. Thank you, thank you. I so wholeheartedly recommend this. n/t |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 10:39 PM Response to Original message |
41. +1 |
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Newest Reality (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 10:40 PM Response to Original message |
42. Great post and well said! May truth prevail! |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 10:54 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. That's exactly what bothered me. The SOTU was a blueprint of the dark vision. |
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Newest Reality (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:03 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Me too! |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
43. turn yourself into a corporation and all the benefits of our government will flow to you nt |
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SharksBreath (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 12:51 PM Response to Reply #43 |
132. You hit the nail on the head. |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
45. Is there some middle ground between jingoistic nationalism and isolationism? |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:04 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. I'm talking about self-sufficiency, not isolationism. |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 08:33 AM Response to Reply #50 |
70. OP describes isolationism. What part of the definition do you disagree with? |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:15 PM Response to Original message |
52. Many independents and even conservatives agree with you and I on this, |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 10:43 AM Response to Reply #52 |
99. I agree with your assessment, Dr Fate. |
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bbgrunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 12:26 PM Response to Reply #99 |
125. not to mention that corporatism does not promote |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 11:03 AM Response to Reply #52 |
105. +1 |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
54. "the pathologically greedy among us." Great observations. Great post. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:20 PM Response to Original message |
55. Competition is the most entangling of foreign entanglements. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 10:44 AM Response to Reply #55 |
100. Good one! nt |
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NRaleighLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:30 PM Response to Original message |
56. K&R. Well stated - I completely agree. Thanks for the great post. n/t |
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JoeyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
58. Hear hear. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:37 PM Response to Original message |
59. K&R |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
61. K&R |
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robdogbucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 01:31 AM Response to Original message |
64. Great post, scarletwoman |
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idlisambar (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 01:48 AM Response to Original message |
65. compete or get left behind |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 08:43 AM Response to Reply #65 |
74. Or don't compete and make the world go away -China's Great Wall strategy. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 10:27 AM Response to Reply #74 |
94. Let us compete with other advanced countries, not with poor ones |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 11:04 AM Response to Reply #94 |
106. And if poor countries want to export to countries with the money to buy stuff? |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 12:56 PM Response to Reply #106 |
135. If the poor countries trade with one another and build on their respective strengths |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 10:49 AM Response to Reply #65 |
101. If we must compete it should |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 02:01 AM Response to Original message |
66. why not ? it does good things, how do you think we ended up on the Moon ? |
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Smashcut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 03:14 AM Response to Original message |
67. Wow. So right and so eloquently put. |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 06:36 AM Response to Original message |
68. excellent point. the many references to competition bothered me, too. |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 07:46 AM Response to Original message |
69. I accidently unrecced this amazing essay! |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 10:51 AM Response to Reply #69 |
102. I fixed it. nt |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 12:02 PM Response to Reply #102 |
118. Thanks. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 08:25 PM Response to Reply #69 |
205. Not to worry. It would seem that your accidental unrec has been compensated for -- |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-28-11 12:23 AM Response to Reply #205 |
218. No kidding, my dear. It seems that your sage wisdom has |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-28-11 07:33 PM Response to Reply #218 |
236. "Sage wisdom"? Yikes! I'm just a cranky old lady living alone in the woods with my dogs, |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 08:38 AM Response to Original message |
73. k&r |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 08:50 AM Response to Original message |
75. Competition is a destructive paradigm. You nailed it. |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
76. k&r |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
77. Globalization is a SCAM! |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 09:55 AM Response to Reply #77 |
85. Globalization-describes the process by which regional economies, societies, and cultures have become |
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jbeing (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 12:33 PM Response to Reply #77 |
127. I agree |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
78. I totally agree!!!! |
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barbiegeek (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
79. With global warming the USA can't feed 1/3 of billion citizens alone |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
80. Traitor! |
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Action (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 09:31 AM Response to Original message |
82. We are the fools |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 09:34 AM Response to Original message |
83. Totally agree. The SOTU sounds like it was written by an ad agency |
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Brewman_Jax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
84. Well said |
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dotymed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
86. Thank you, scarletwoman. |
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humblebum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 10:15 AM Response to Original message |
87. We need enough protectionism to be able to compete freely and fairly |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
89. ... |
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nalnn (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
90. I am sorry |
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BobbyBoring (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:13 PM Response to Reply #90 |
181. I don't know how old you are |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
92. Communist! |
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shimmergal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
96. You're right in large part, |
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Paper Roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
98. I have had it up to 'here' with the philosophy that we have to be or |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
103. Wow, you sure use the word "me" a lot. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
104. "Competition" is insane -- we need cooperation, for the planet and for labor .... |
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judy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
109. I'm with you scarletwoman! |
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obxhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
110. Don't worry, Obama does not want to compete either. |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 11:56 AM Response to Reply #110 |
116. Well said! |
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4_TN_TITANS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
111. Excellent post..... n/t |
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ceile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
112. k&r |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
113. Fabulous post, eloquently expressed |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
114. what about Sputnik? |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
115. It's Ironic, because those repeating that rhetoric don't seem to give a damn about its people |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
117. I had a similar feeling. the nationalism. the "This is the greatest country on earth" |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 12:12 PM Response to Reply #117 |
119. And too many Americans buy it, because they've never been anywhere else |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 12:52 PM Response to Reply #119 |
133. "They went to Tijuana once." lol |
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I hate liars (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
120. Jingoism is a front for the extractive class... |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
121. One of the most valuable things I learned from living in Japan in the 1970s |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
122. The genie is out of the bottle. |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 10:40 PM Response to Reply #122 |
217. Don't forget-- |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
123. Brilliant as usual, my dear... |
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Kirbster (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
126. I agree 100% with the OP |
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LongTomH (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
128. A wonderful and thoughtful post and a great dialogue! |
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aquamarina (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
129. Beautifully stated post. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
130. I have a different perspective of that part... |
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amyrose2712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
131. +++ |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
136. Kicked and recommended. |
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bluestateboomer (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
137. Very eloquent |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
138. Great post. Unfortunately we don't want to "compete" with Asia, but |
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Green_Lantern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
140. you're talking out of both sides of your mouth... |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:40 PM Response to Reply #140 |
171. I think you are being too generous... |
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Green_Lantern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:58 PM Response to Reply #171 |
176. I think they're confusing competing with bullying... |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-28-11 12:53 AM Response to Reply #176 |
220. I wish that were so. These folks really believe in no competition (or at least they think they do) |
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Green_Lantern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-28-11 02:18 PM Response to Reply #220 |
226. the OP logic baffles me |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-28-11 06:53 PM Response to Reply #220 |
233. nah... maybe it's just you |
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Celeborn Skywalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
141. Exactly. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
144. Well said, I think most people would agree with you. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
146. Yes. We. Can. Compete with the World. |
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RufusTFirefly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 08:04 PM Response to Reply #146 |
200. Bravo! I'm with bvar22! |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
147. Right on, sw! |
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ElboRuum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
148. 'Competition is a destructive paradigm' |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
149. You must not have been paying attention during the campaign when "worker productivity" was mentioned |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
150. K&R and remember we, the people don't require force multipliers |
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swilton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
152. + 1,000 |
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ck4829 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
154. But don't you want to lower your quality of life so the 2% at the top can live better? |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
157. So apparently you wouldn't have competed with the Soviets to see who could make it to the moon... |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
159. Competition is part and parcel of the Infinite Growth Paradigm. |
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mcollins (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
161. K&R +1!!! |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
162. k&R |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
164. K&R n/t |
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pacalo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
165. I agree wholeheartedly with every eloquent sentence you wrote. Kudos! |
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Scottybeamer70 (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
166. Thank you! |
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pacalo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:28 PM Response to Reply #166 |
168. A hearty welcome to DU, scottybeamer! |
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chaska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
169. Competition is 20th-century. Cooperation is 21st-century. |
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BobbyBoring (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
172. Beautifully Stated |
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Blue Owl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
175. God Bless the USA -- screw everyone else |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 10:19 PM Response to Reply #175 |
216. We are about 5% of the global population consuming approx 25% of the planet's resources. |
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Tace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
177. scarletwoman: Great Post! |
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EndElectoral (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
180. What do politicans mean when they say "compete"? |
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raouldukelives (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
184. K&R |
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eppur_se_muova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
187. We have always been in competition with Eastasia. nt |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
188. K & R |
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tilsammans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
189. K&R!!! One of the best posts and threads EVER on DU! |
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Beringia (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
191. Agree |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
192. thanks for the OP |
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Puregonzo1188 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 06:45 PM Response to Original message |
193. Yeah, I found that to be a turn-off too. |
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Desertrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 07:31 PM Response to Original message |
197. Yessss.....you are spot on!! |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-28-11 07:09 PM Response to Reply #197 |
234. Hey, DR!!!! |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
198. To all those who have responded on this thread, my humble thanks. |
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Scruffy1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
199. I'm sick of this beating the other guy crap |
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saras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
204. You don't have to be better to win |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
210. The world wants to compete with you. |
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mommalegga (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
212. I dont think that the President was saying we need to compete |
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Agony (865 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
214. Oh for the day! When our President would have you as his/her speech writer!! |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-28-11 12:29 AM Response to Original message |
219. K/R |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-28-11 01:44 AM Response to Original message |
222. Competition turns on the violent, brutal side of human nature. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-28-11 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
228. It's a ruling class thing... |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-28-11 06:20 PM Response to Reply #228 |
231. Well and succinctly put. (nt) |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
239. But...but...but...Obama's a Socialist. |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
240. If Jesus or Dr King were to return |
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lanlady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
241. I had the exact same reaction to SOTU |
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