29-year-old to become Britain's youngest grandfather

[RandySF]

London: A 29-year-old man is all set to become Britain's youngest grandfather, as his 14-year-old daughter has become pregnant.

The man, whose identity is being kept anonymous to protect his young daughter, said he was fuming that his teenage daughter was 11 weeks pregnant.

"It's like history repeating itself. I quite like the idea of being the youngest grandad in Britain, but at the same time I'm fuming that she is pregnant," he was quoted as saying by the Daily Mail.



http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/29-year-old-to-become-britains-youngest-grandfather-81500?pfrom=home-World

[seabeyond]

1. i quite like... i am fuming. hm, contradictive parenting? nt

[iamjoy]

2. Contradictory Parenting, Indeed

If he is 29 and his daughter is 14, he became a father at 15. Sounds like his daughter is chip off the young block...

[slackmaster]

Poetic justice, in a sense

But really tragic for everyone IMO.

[Ghost in the Machine]

6. Wasn't Loretta Lynn a mother at 14 and grandmother at 28?

Wonder how old the youngest grandmother in the US is/was?

Off to do some searching!

[davidinalameda]

8. found this

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080113075201AAuKGFS

[yellowcanine]

31. Loretta Lynn was 29 I believe.

[Exultant Democracy]

4. 11 weeks thats still the first trimester, then again he could be the UK's youngest great grandpa

in 14 years.

[rocktivity]

3. Twenty-nine minus 14 leaves 15

I don't know what I find more astounding: that he was just a year older when HE became a parent, or that he actually said "It's like history repeating itself"!

:rofl:
rocktivity

[bob4460]

5. Hell I personally know a 28 Y.O. grandmother

But I do live in KENTUCKY

[happyslug]

14. 30 year old Grandmothers are NOT that uncommon, I have seen several

I did not start to feel old till I was 35, and a man came into my office and said he was a 35 year old grandfather. I had seem several 30 year old grandmothers prior to that, but he was the youngest grandfather.

While some women have children when they are 12-14 years old, most the the father's of their babies tend to be 2-3 years old (i.e. 16-18 years old). One reason for this is all males produce "immature" sperm in their early teens. In most males that is almost 90-95% of their Sperm. This, while it is NOT impossible for them to get a woman pregnant, it is a lot harder then an older male. By the time a man is about 18 he is producing almost 100% mature sperm, thus more likely to get a woman pregnant. Thus, while it is not unheard of, it is rare for men prior to about age 16 to father children, even if they are sexually active. Thus you have an additional 3-4 years of aging before males start fathering children compared to women.

This came up about 15-20 years ago when two African American boys of about age 10 were accused to attacking and raping (and stealing the Bicycle of) a little white girl. The boys confessed to the Police after being interrogated (They were found with the girl's bicycle which at first they claimed they found on the side of the road, the Police did not believe them and interrogated them till the Boys Confessed). About two days latter a hearing was about to start to indict the boys for the crime of raping and murdering the little girl. Some one (I suspect a lab technician) was seen talking to the DA who was to lead that attack on these two Criminals. The DA was angry at the lab technician for reasons never explained. The African American Boys had a lawyer who was going to defend them against the Charges and attack the interrogation, but then the DA walked up to the Judge and asked that all charges be dropped. Nothing was heard from that point forward.

I suspect when the Police found the little girls body, they took it to the lab for lab tests. The time between the arrest and the hearing was to short for a DNA Test, and a blood test could have been done on day one and probably had been done and the boys "passed" that test. In my opinion the Lab Technician told the DA that he had examine the sperm left in the White Girl and found very few if any immature sperm, thus the little girl had to be attacked by a male over age 18 (And probably over age 21). The DA did not like hearing that, for the DA had Confessions that were not contradicted by physical evidence. The boys statement that they had been coerced by the Police now had support for it was clear the boys did NOT do the crime, they had just found an abandoned bicycle and played with it. The Actual Criminal was long gone.

Just pointing out that immature sperm of young males has been a known fact ever since microscopes were invented and people looked at sperm under the microscope. It is the primary reason you can have a lot more 30 year old grandmothers then 30 year old grandfathers.

[davidinalameda]

7. he was 15 when she was born

a year older than she is now

:shrug:

[JI7]

9. the article mentions that in 2006 a girl had a baby at age 11

imagine being in your early 30s with a kid in their 20s. or even in your 20s with a kid in the teens.

[JI7]

10. his mother's grandmother is still alive, so that would mean the baby that will be born

will have a great great great grandmother.

[flvegan]

11. Turns and looks: none of my business. Walks on. n/t

[SheilaT]

12. I realize that having kids is a very personal

decision, but I can't begin to tell any of you how glad I am that I didn't have my first child until I was 34. Second at 38. In my thirties I had far more stamina and perspective and experience of the world and so I was a far better mother than I'd have been had I had my kids ten years or, god forbid, twenty years earlier.

I had a life of my own for a fairly long time before I got married in the first place. My two sons are now 23 and 28, no prospective grandchildren in sight. But I told them a very long time ago that they are not obligated to provide me with any. They deserve their own lives.

[blondeatlast]

29. My only was born when I was 36. I've got about 10 years on every mom

at my son's school but I don't regret it at all.

[Brother Buzz]

36. Our only son's mother was nearly forty-four when he was born

We are older than some of the grandparents at school functions.

[Brother Buzz]

13. This dude is way behind the United States average according to Michele Bachmann

She told us we've had 21 generations of Americans with our 235-year history, that makes a generation about 11 years.

"That is why I have come to speak to you tonight — because the promise of America is under threat as never before. For twenty-one generations, the torch of liberty has been successfully passed from one generation to the next. And the question we need to ask ourselves tonight is: Will it end with us? Will we be the first generation to fail when it is our turn to pass the torch of liberty? Will we allow this great experiment in human liberty called America to end on our watch?" - Michele Bachmann

[tblue37]

15. If I remember correctly, country singer Loretta Lynn had her

first daughter at 14, and then her daughter made her a 28-year-old grandmother 14 years later. IOW, this is not exactly unheard of.

[Liquorice]

16. The youngest grandmother in America is also 29 years old. I can't even imagine. nt

[Odin2005]

17. That is fucked up.

[Sen. Walter Sobchak]

18. ahh... chavs...

http://www.dogcow.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Chavs.html

[Union Scribe]

41. Lol, that was my first thought

How much Burberry do you think is in that household? :D

[osteenq]

19. I love the idiot grandfather's comment...

"She is very young, but she was determined to keep the child. We were not going to force her into doing anything else. We don't want her to hate us."

Because that would seem too much like parenting, right?

[muriel_volestrangler]

20. You're saying that forcing her to have an abortion or give up the child would be good parenting?

Wow. What a fucked-up comment. He didn't say they hadn't advised her; he said she was determined, so they'll stand by her.

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[NickB79]

30. The time for parenting was BEFORE she got pregnant

Now that she's pregnant, she can do what she wants with her body and the embryo that resides inside it.

[osteenq]

33. Yeah...

I'm sure the kid will turn out GREAT.

[NickB79]

46. Maybe the child will, maybe it won't

That's not the point. The point is that it is now the choice of the young woman, not her mother or father, about what she does with the embryo in her body.

[WinkyDink]

21. By definition there's been a child-rape.

[hobbit709]

22. how did you get to that conclusion?

[WinkyDink]

38. The age of consent in Britain is 16.

[Freddie Stubbs]

27. Not sure about UK laws, but in most US States it is not a crime if

the sexual partner is close in age.

[muriel_volestrangler]

28. With a child of 13, 14 or 15, the partner is having unlawful sex, but it's not rape

ie the child is held able to consent, and assuming they do so. The penalties are less if the partner is under 18 than it they're over it. Technically, 2 15 year olds having sex can both be convicted of unlawful sex.

http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/sexual_offences_act/#Offences_against_children_under

[WinkyDink]

37. STATUTORY rape:

http://www.sexlaws.org/what_is_statutory_rape

[muriel_volestrangler]

40. AMERICAN (nt)

[rocktivity]

45. DING DING DING! Muriel_volestrangler, you're our grand prize winner!

Technically, two 15-year-olds having sex can both be convicted of unlawful sex.

And they should be--15-year-olds are old enough to understand that they're not old enough to be having sex!

:crazy:
rocktivity

[WinkyDink]

39. "Close"? The law recognizes "close"? I think not. Girls are now being arrested for "sexting"

photos OF THEMSELVES; the charge is child pornography.

It is the AGE at the TIME.

[delightfulstar]

23. Eeeeek!

My son is almost 13...I can't even fathom him having a child anytime soon. (He's not dating until he's 30 LOL....) I would be fuming too.

I'm about to become a great-aunt at 35, BTW...but my nephew is 26. (Big sibling age gap in my family.)

[a la izquierda]

24. ye gods!

my friends all kind of chuckle when i tell them that my folks are 55 and 57 (and i'm 33). most of my friends are academics, and had a lot in life-and their parents were considerably older.

i just told my husband about this, and his (joking) comment was: "that guy should try and become the youngest great grandfather, and then the youngest great-great-grandfather."

[Blue_Tires]

26. someone needs to teach that family how babies are made...

[JVS]

35. I think they've figured it out.

[yellowcanine]

32. Dang! I am almost 60 and I am not a grandpa yet. Course I was 29 when my oldest daughter was born.

So I guess it is at least partially my fault.

[JVS]

34. Just think. You could have been a great great grandfather now, at the rate that guy went.

[Sen. Walter Sobchak]

43. My father was 45 when I was born, he is now in his 80's

You can imagine the glares me and my brother get with our girlfriends at family gatherings, my parents however are in the dark about both me and my brother being sterile, they want grandchildren so badly but having taken their sweet time themselves aren't really in a position to complain.

[cali]

42. OK. So if the grandkid is a girl and she gets pregnant at 14

he could be a great grandfather at the age of 43 and if.... then a great great grandfather at 57 and a great great great grandfather at 71; a great great great great grandfather at at 85 and a great great great great great grandfather at 99.

:rofl:

[Nevernose]

44. I met a 22 yo grandmother when I worked for FYS

The grandmother was 22, the mother was 10 and actually pregnant with her 2nd child. The first grandchild had been taken away, but they'd lied successfully, so the 10 yo stayed with her mother (claimed it was another boy her age at school who was the father). Actually they were all addicted to crack, and when the ten yo developed early, the mother's pimp put her to "work."

The kid came through my office on a truancy, of all things, otherwise it's possible no one in authority would have ever known. Needless to say, people went to jail, and even while she was being handcuffed for selling her own kid into prostitution, the 22 year old grandmother was talking about how she was going to "get her grandbabies back from the state" and claimed I just wanted to steal her children.

If people really had any idea what was going on behind their neighbor's doors, they'd never sleep again. I know I still have nightmares, and I quit years ago. Couldn't handle it, emotionally, and am much happier teaching school.