Congress Passes Socialized Medicine and Mandates Health Insurance -In 1798

[RC]

“Keep in mind that the 5th Congress did not really need to struggle over the intentions of the drafters of the Constitutions in creating this Act as many of its members were the drafters of the Constitution.”
>SNIP<
"Clearly, the nation’s founders serving in the 5th Congress, and there were many of them, believed that mandated health insurance coverage was permitted within the limits established by our Constitution.
The moral to the story is that the political right-wing has to stop pretending they have the blessings of the Founding Fathers as their excuse to oppose whatever this president has to offer.
History makes it abundantly clear that they do not."

http://blogs.forbes.com/rickungar/2011/01/17/congress-passes-socialized-medicine-and-mandates-health-insurance-in-1798/

[SlimJimmy]

1. This has already been didscussed here in several threads. The

bottom line is that this was not a mandate that all purchase private insurance, but a requirement for merchant sailors to pay into a pool. Not even close to what is being proposed today.

[RC]

2. Click the link and read the article.

[SlimJimmy]

3. I already did. Nothing new to add.

[Gravel Democrat]

4. Why are you reposting the exact same thing you posted last night?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=282803&mesg_id=282803

I'll repost my reply to your other post, which you ignored (hard to see why):

In July of 1798, Congress passed – and President John Adams signed - “An Act for the Relief of Sick and Disabled Seamen.” The law authorized the creation of a government operated marine hospital service and mandated that privately employed sailors be required to purchase health care insurance"

Did the feds require all citizens to be "privately employed sailors"?

"When Asked Where the Constitution Authorizes Congress to Order Americans To Buy Health Insurance, Pelosi Says: 'Are You Serious?'"

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/55971

The other thing often employed by those asking for acceptance of this travesty of the commerce clause:

Auto insurance

Never have the Feds required Auto insurance. They do not have that power, assuming (...) the constitution still applies.

Let me ask you this:

If McCain had won, and his administration had passed a law requiring every citizen to purchase, without a public option, "health insurance" from a for profit company, or face harassment from the IRS, you would have supported it. Even after his wingman had advocates for the Public Option *ARRESTED*. Right?

I don't think so.

What this despicable exercise in rationalization shows is that all that matters is the proponent of any particular legislation wears the proper letter after their name.

It's disgusting. In fact, this is the most disgusting thing (outside of the immoral wars) that either party has *ever* advocated.

It's shocking to the conscience, especially coming from (D)emocrats.

Most people don't even know (thanks to our glorious media, most of whom have their heads up DC Powerbrokers asses) that they will be required to file proof of insurance with their taxes in 2014.

And when they do, run for cover.

[RC]

5. How is government health care not part of the General Welfare,

when this same clause gave us Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid?
A healthy populace is part of the meaning of ‘general welfare’.
The biggest problem for some is the fact that they all help the people, over big business and corporations. That was all I tried to post.
So what is your problem here?

That is what the article is about. The U.S. government has already mandated and supplied health care, 'Socialized medicine'. That is a fact and why I posted the article. The Republicans are trying to say government run health care is unconstitutional. It is not, as our Founding Fathers did do it.

Auto insurance applies the same way as taxing the seaman. If you want to drive a vehicle on public streets, you will have insurance. The same as the seamen paying the tax. It was part of the equation if they wanted to work.

I ignored your reply because it for the most part doesn't apply. It is a miss direction that I would expect on an open blog, not on DU.

If you don't like what I post, put me on 'ignore'.