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[WinkyDink]

1. Families deserve NOT to have to sacrifice, Mr. President. But you skip right past that.

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[MadMaddie]

20. Exactly!

He has done what he said he would do.

[xchrom]

3. GE paid under 4% in corporate taxes. nt

[pnwmom]

4. "Each of us deserves the chance to shape our destiny" is not a Republican idea.

It's an American idea.

And the rest of this passage is equally overblown.

[snappyturtle]

7. Can you explain to me what is 'overblown' about:

".... but he didn’t once talk about poverty, which is on the rise and which greatly limits the chances of millions of Americans to reach their destiny"?

[dkf]

5. What poverty program does work to get people on their own feet?

Is it possible to solve Individual poverty or is it about providing for people who cannot make it on their own?

[Better Believe It]

15. Proposing a massive infrastructure and WPA style public works program would do it.

That would be a "Sputnik" moment!

[dkf]

19. I would be curious to know how many people in poverty are equipped to do that type of job.

Would that really solve poverty?

[Better Believe It]

26. Almost everyone. In fact, the unemployed people who have been driven into poverty all had jobs!

[kentuck]

17. Most poverty programs aren't created to "get people on their feet"...

It is to help them survive from day to day. It is not an investment program.

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[white_wolf]

25. Another Republican talking point

poverty programs just keep people lazy and poor, if we didn't help them then they would quit doing drugs and go out and get a job. Despite the fact that jobs don't seem to exist at the moment. I am so sick of the DLC and its corrupting influence on the Democratic party.

[seabeyond]

6. it wasnt a failure. nt

[earthside]

9. Time will tell.

But I compare his speech to cotton candy: a bit of sweetness, but mostly empty air.

Sorry, to say it, but there just wasn't much 'there' there in the address.

[seabeyond]

11. it wasnt a failure to the nation. and time already told. that is all it is. no more. nt

[soleft]

10. Agreed

[Laelth]

8. Obama might as well switch parties now.

I do not recognize him as a Democrat based upon his SOTU address.

Anti-labor? Supporting free trade agreements that kill American jobs? Not a Democrat.
Anti-regulation? Not a Democrat.
For cutting taxes? Not a Democrat.
For cutting taxes on businesses, especially? Not a Democrat.
Freezing domestic spending in the middle of a recession? Not a Democrat.
Limiting medical malpractice awards? Not a Democrat.

I do not recognize these goals as goals of the Democratic Party. Of course, Obama is now the leader of the Democratic Party, so I find myself in a bit of a bind. Either Obama is no longer a Democrat, or I should be voting for another party.

I resent being made to feel this way. I thought I knew what Democrats stood for.

-Laelth

[OhioChick]

12. +1000 n/t

[hfojvt]

14. yeah, the Coke formula change is moving right along

trouble is that, although new Coke is having trouble out-selling the Pepsi that it imitates, there is not a huge crowd calling for the return of Coke (or Democrat) classic.

Especially not after Gore tried it in his acceptance speech.

[Smarmie Doofus]

23. Can I add to your list? School privatization; Iraq war; Iran war-mongering;

Afghanistan war; military build-up; double talk and foot-dragging on GLBT issues; secrecy, paranoia, persecution of whistleblowers, esp. military whistleblowers; failure to prosecute actual war crimes and to investigate cover-up of same.

Not a Democrat.

He's created a new third party entirely. It is housed.. i hope temporarily... in the Democratic Party. But it is NOT the Democratic Party.

[lunatica]

13. self delete

I'll save my breath

[Better Believe It]

16. What is in the full part for working people? Or is that part exclusively for the rich?

[hfojvt]

18. no, the glass is more than half empty, unfortunately

the key line is that "Obama has done a bad job of pushing back at Republican ideas" and with his recent State of the Union it seems like, once again, he is not even trying to push back on Republican ideas. It's another "the era of Democratic opposition to Republicans is over" speech, just like the Big Dawg.

[Better Believe It]

21. The author mainly writes in sentences not paragraphs so I cut it to 10 short sentences.

I think that could easily be the equivalent of one or two normal paragraphs.

[Angry Dragon]

22. Time will tell

[Safetykitten]

27. The next State of the Union should be pure comedy gold at this rate.

I have no idea how he would follow this up. What could he possibly say short of telling us that Goldman Sachs is running the country now to save money.

[Enthusiast]

28. K&R

Right on point.

[SidDithers]

29. meh...nt

Sid