Stoopid Murican tourist on the phone at CNN

[nadinbrzezinski]

She flew in after this started...

Yes, I know she should (and is) quite clueless... this is what happens when people are just damn ignorant.

[LiberalLoner]

1. Okay, I'll bite...what did the stoopid Murican tourist say? n/t K&R

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. Flew in after the fun started, to go to Nairobi

and is now surprised she cannot leave a closed airport. She forgot to turn on the TV and connect a few dots.

[Odin2005]

2. Prolly one of those folks that "never watches the news".

Much like the people that said "What oil spill" when I brought up what was going on in the Gulf.

[nadinbrzezinski]

7. I make a point to read LOCAL press

and international press before going abroad, but then again, I wasn't born here.

I am just amazed at times.

[Name removed]

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[woo me with science]

18. To be fair,

It's pretty easy to watch the news all day in the US and learn little except the name of Charlie Sheen's latest porn star prostitute. :puke:

[jonnyblitz]

25. you got that right. you can see that "here" at DU. Nobody

knows who/what country/dictator their own president truthfully supports or not but they know that sports guys on ESPN are talking about masturbating to Sarah Palin.

[whathehell]

61. Aw gee, Blitz...Sorry you're so unhappy here at DU...

Feel free to share that "higher intelligence" with us sometime soon.:eyes:

[SidDithers]

62. +1...nt

Sid

[JI7]

3. aren't you going to tell us what she said ?

[nadinbrzezinski]

6. She is shocked I tell you

at the conditions at the airport and how hard things are.

[name not needed]

8. I bet they don't even have a Cinnabon!

:cry:

[blondeatlast]

16. Well, I won't be going to SA anytime soon then!

:rofl:

[WolverineDG]

37. No, they don't

but the Cairo Airport has a lot of other places to eat & bathrooms, running water, etc. :eyes:

Of course, with all the disruption, & no one able to get in or out, it's going to look like the New Orleans Superdome pretty quick.

dg

[Dennis Donovan]

4. Newspaper, schnewspaper...

....I wanna see the SPINKS!:crazy:

[eShirl]

76. "Is this where they found the Stargate?"

Indeed.

[Fumesucker]

9. I bet she voted on American Idol.. n/t

[provis99]

10. the Ugly American tourist is real.

I saw enough of those loudmouthed, ignorant idiots when I toured Europe.

[sufrommich]

11. Actually Al Zazeera interviewed a few American tourist who were

quite respectful of the Egyptian revolution and chose to stay. One guy even went out in the streets with them and got his first taste of tear gas.

[whathehell]

14. Yes, as is the Ugly French tourist , the Ugly British tourist, etc.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheat-sheet/item/french-voted-worlds-worst-tourists/mon-dieu/

http://news.yahoo.com/s/rolf_potts/20061009/rolf_potts/rolf_potts10387

[cherokeeprogressive]

63. Ha. I had a Pakistani "gentleman" snap his fingers at me in a clothing store to get my attention.

Then he asked me for a shirt in a particular color. I told him I didn't work there and that I was a customer like him. Then he told me (DIDN'T ask) to find a clerk because he was in a hurry.

Oddly enough, that isn't the only time I've had a "furriner" snap his fingers at me to get my attention.

Guess we don't have the market cornered on rudeness like some would like to think.

[whathehell]

69. No, we don't, Cherokeeprogressive..

Quite a few others (including the OP, I suspect) were born and raised

in cultures much more authoritarian, more "class based" than ours, like your Pakistani "gentleman"

They assume a lot and can act arrogantly.

They often don't "get" that we are NOT that kind of society and that this is not acceptable here.

My complaints about our country notwithstanding, that is one thing for which I am both grateful and

and truly proud.:hi:

[cherokeeprogressive]

71. Well said wth. n/t

[whathehell]

74. Thanks, Cherokee. n/t

[Morning Dew]

108. Common occurence for me. Everywhere I go, I look like I work there.

I must have a retail face from all the years I worked in retail.

[petronius]

15. True. But I've noticed that apart from the accent, it's pretty hard to distinguish

USian behavior from the rest. The 'Ugly American' hasn't gone away, but the 'Ugly Everything-else' has caught up.

As for the OP, bash CNN for providing such a pointless, useless, trivial, non-news bit of info, but I see no need to bash this woman...

[whathehell]

22. I agree...Check out my posts regarding the polls on "worst tourists"

The French and the Brits have been surpassing Americans for years,

exchanging "ist place" awards with each other for several years now..

As for the OP, if you follow her posts, you'll find that bashing "murkans"

is a bit of a hobby for her and she needs little "reason".

[nadinbrzezinski]

23. Ah just attack, welcome to the iggy list

[whathehell]

30. and you know all about "attacking" dear

Do take your iggy list and put it in "storage" along with your map.:evilgrin:

[existentialist]

47. Anyone have any extra butter?

:popcorn:

[Obamanaut]

24. You're in trouble now. nt

[whathehell]

28. Really?

and why is that?

[Obamanaut]

73. You had the audacity to disagree with the OP, now you have an 'iggy' looming over you. nt

[whathehell]

75. OMG !!

[whathehell]

56. No, it looks like someone else is "in trouble", lol.

[petronius]

34. I see in one of those links that the French came behind the British in "fashion apparel"

I'll bet that hurt a lot more than anything else... :rofl:

Generalized bashing (of national groups or others) is a pretty common sport on DU, for a lot of reasons I guess - some do it because they need to feel smarter than someone, others do it out of intellectual laziness, and others must just think it's fun. It's taken me too long to outgrow it, but I've really lost interest in the game of "all/most _____s are ______." Somebody recently (Zombiehorde, perhaps?) had a nice pithy post about the acceptability of broad-brush statements being dependent on how little thinking you want to do; I thought it was pretty spot on...

[whathehell]

35. Yes, that may be true, but that's not the reason they've been deemed "worst"

My niece speaks french fluently and lived in France for a year.

She did have some unkind things to say about their hygiene.:eyes:

[NYC Liberal]

41. In college, someone mentioned the "ugly American" thing to

my Italian professor. His response was that it's not just Americans by any stretch...LOTS of tourists from every country are just as bad.

[nadinbrzezinski]

21. Yes they are real

(and to be fair so are chiense, Japanese, French, English...)

But ours are at times something special. They are a very loud but SMALL minority of truly ugly tourists. Oy the stories... I have encountered them in Europe and in Mexico.

[whathehell]

31. About that "stoopid" thing..Now, how are you spelling "chiense"...Say WHAT?

:rofl:

Get a grip...You've got a ways to go before calling "stupid"..Duh.

[Codeine]

68. Yeah, she's a "bonna fide" speller, this one. nt

[whathehell]

70. Ha!...You got that right.

[cali]

80. ......

:rofl:

I'm really digging this thread. decided lack of sycophants for a welcome change.

[whathehell]

33. Ufortunately, so is the Ugly American Immigrant..

Just sayin..:eyes:

[WolverineDG]

39. wow, judgmental much?

:eyes:

It's possible that the airlines told her not to worry about connecting in Cairo, she'd still be able to make her flight to Nairobi.

dg

[Codeine]

64. The most loutish and loudmouthed tourists I saw in London were

French tourists. Most Americans really aren't that loud.

[Tunkamerica]

12. Or she was on already traveling and didn't see the news.

This thing happened pretty quickly.

[whathehell]

13. Of course....but why

give a break to a "stoopid murkin" when you enjoy bashing them so much?

[Raine]

29. Yes that can easily happen

when you travel you're in a bubble. Sometimes your main concern is just making your connections. When you're on vacation it's easy to be cut off from reality. I often feel really "out of it" and strange one I return home.

[bluestate10]

45. I broke a toe upon returning home from an extended business trip.

The bathroom in the hotel room was positioned such that when I took the path upon returning home and going to the bathroom for the first time late at night, I slammed one of my big toes into my wooden baseboard, breaking the toe.

[SidDithers]

77. +1...nt

Sid

[itsrobert]

17. Maybe if she was going to Nairobi she didn't know she had a layover in Egypt

Possible?

[whathehell]

19. Of course, but again,

Why give the benfit of the doubt when you

enjoy bashing "stoopid murkans" as much as they OP does?

[Name removed]

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[whathehell]

26. Yes, I have a "problem"..

as do some others here, it seems.


Where is it that you were born now?.


Why not go back and spill your bile there?

You might find a more "welcoming" audience.

[whathehell]

27. You don't know "most people in the country", dear.

So take your ugly condescension and SHOVE it hard.

[bluestate10]

48. Yes, I have a problem with it.

Anyone that has done extensive travel across national boundaries know that there are a myriad of things to think about and deal with. Even experienced travelers often don't give any notice to stopover airports, the main issue is getting on the right plane at the point of destination and getting through all the bureaucratic BS that has to be taken care of before boarding, and doing that while not leaving something important behind like a passport. There are smaller issues of doing currency exchanges so that the first thing when on the ground is not having to do an exchange or find a bank ATM in a strange city. I once boarded the right plane and was surprised when it stopped over in a foreign city that was on my ticket, but which I had no concern with or plans for. Such is travel when business is to be done in the departure city and the final destination city, the concern is to get what I traveled for done.

[apocalypsehow]

32. Of course, you have no idea what her travel times and access to media/news has been in the last 48

hours, but that doesn't deter you from posting an OP that drips with condescension for a person you have never met, and whose personal situation you do not know.

Delighted to UnRec. :thumbsdown:

[nadinbrzezinski]

36. Delighted to ignore....

[apocalypsehow]

44. Good. n/t.

[cali]

81. join a very large club.

it's quite amusing.

[Joe the Revelator]

59. Just another day in the life...

[NYC Liberal]

38. Unrec nt

[WolverineDG]

40. Stupid airline for flying into Cairo in the first place

:eyes:

dg

[nadinbrzezinski]

42. I guess most of you missed it

it was funny and tragic at the same time, hide thread.. whatever, fuck it.

And yes SOME AMERICANS ARE IGNORANT TWEETS, AND PROUD OF IT!

This is about ONE STOOPID AMERICAN.

[WolverineDG]

43. who was on a STOOPID AIRLINE THAT FLEW INTO CAIRO

instead of cancelling/re-routing.

Is the "stoopid murkican" responsible for where the airline flies? :think:

dg

[Raine]

50. Yes, really

but gee blame the "stoopid American" who actually thinks the airline may have more inside information than she has access to. :eyes:

[WolverineDG]

54. yeah, we all know stoopid Americans control the airlines too

she was the one who told them to fly there, I just bet.

:crazy:

the OP was just another excuse to bash Americans.

dg

[Kingofalldems]

46. +1

K and R

[whathehell]

51. What you're assuming is "missed" is more likely Ignored or Rejected

A little low on recs, LOL?

Could that be that a lot of us are SICK of your ugly insults and condescension?

But maybe you "missed this"..Some of Everybody is STOOPID...That includes Rude, Vitriolic, Hostile Immigrants to this country.


Now what country "birthed" you so that you could eventually

grace us with your charm?..You don't seem to want to tell us, LOL.

[Codeine]

65. Oh, this is most certainly about one stoopid American.

Most certainly.

[SidDithers]

49. Unrec. Stoopid thread...nt

Sid

[riderinthestorm]

52. Unrec. International travel sometimes has unexpected occurrences.

Nobody can be expected to believe an Arab uprising will finally occur in Egypt, and take this kind of hold, after decades of complacent acceptance of their dictator.

This was a stop-over on the way to Nairobi. This wasn't her final destination. Cairo has been a reliable international stop for decades.

The condescension is misplaced and the intentional typo indicative of the OP's bias.

[whathehell]

55. Please don't confuse

the OP with facts.

This is just her latest weak excuse to shit on the people of her "adopted" country.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

79. It's like your neigbhor moving in and criticizing the drapes.

[whathehell]

82. Yes, indeed...Great analogy... n/t

[Dorian Gray]

109. Agree

this does feel like an excuse to bash stupid americans for travel. I don't see what the big deal is.

[jdp349]

53. dumb thread is dumb

[WolverineDG]

57. Stoopid Airlines that fly into Cairo

*LOADS* of planes full of stoopid people from all over, not just Americans:

British Airways
Egypt Air
KLM
Luftansa
Air France
Alitalia
United
Delta
bmi
SpanAir
LOT
Aeroflot
Thai
Iberia
SAS

loads more here: http://www.skyscanner.com/flights-to/cai/airlines-that-fly-to-cairo-airport.html

[alittlelark]

58. I'm assuming this is the one I heard whining about

not being able to see the pyramids?

[Joe the Revelator]

60. Unrec pretentious and presumptive as well as condescending

[Name removed]

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[Obamanaut]

78. This would be a good response to 'rec' nt

[former9thward]

66. The Cairo airport is open both for incoming and outgoing.

The hours have been adjusted for curfew but people can get in and out. This is from British Air which is one of the main Cairo air carriers from Europe. http://www.britishairways.com/travel/flightops/public/en_gb As you can see no real problem. No foreigners have been attacked by anyone since the demonstrations started.

[mainer]

83. Why are Americans fleeing Egypt? I think it's a great time to be a tourist.

No Americans have yet been injured or killed yet. This is a civil uprising, not a military incursion. The tourist infrastructure is probably praying that the tourists stay, and I bet tourists are being VERY well taken care of.

Frankly, it seems like a wonderful time to be touring Luxor and Valley of the Kings. You'd have the place to yourself.

[WolverineDG]

84. everything is shut down

nothing to do anyway, but sit around your hotel room. I'd want to get out too, & come back when things calmed down.

One tourist interviewed tonight said that their hotel had been broken into & the mall next to it burned down. IIRC, this might be one of the Hiltons on the Nile, a very beautiful spot btw.

dg

[mainer]

85. I heard that several tour groups down in Luxor are going forward

In Cairo, I can see that you wouldn't be able to get out of your hotel room. But in Luxor, you might actually get the sights to yourself.

[WolverineDG]

86. valley of the kings is easy enough to get to

grab a taxi, get on toll road, cross river, bang, you're there, smack dab in the middle of the valley of the kings. :)

there's even some really cool ruins in town...grab a taxi & head out. :)

dg

[mainer]

87. my thoughts exactly. I've been to Egypt 3X

and the only downside was the hordes and HORDES of tourists.

Every time Americans start fleeing the other way has always been a pretty good time for me to travel.

[whathehell]

88. Maybe they felt the same way

and therefore gave you the "room".:rofl:

[whathehell]

89. not a "mainer"

by birth, then?

Or just another one of our "superior" citizenry?

[mainer]

91. You think Mainers don't travel?

So having traveled makes me someone to despise?

[whathehell]

94. Again...

you're assuming a lot...

What do you know of the nature and extent of my travels?

You have yet to answer my question, btw, although

your transparent "assumptions" may have answered it for me, lol.

[mainer]

95. You revealed yourself when you called travelers "superior citizenry"

implying you think travelers are somehow not like everyone else.

[whathehell]

97. Umm. No, You are revealing yourself, it seems..

I wasn't calling "travelers" anything.

Essentially, I asked if you were American.

"Superior citizenry" refers to Americans

who believe they are a "cut above" other Americans.

[mainer]

98. Yes, I am a native-born American

Your phrase "superior citizenry" was not defined in your question. How was I to understand that you were actually asking US-born or non-US born? The way you phrased it implied that those who travel are somehow superior. You said nothing about foreign born vs. American born.

When you're demanding an answer to a question, you should try to be a little more specific about what it is you're asking.

Your question, verbatim:

"NOT A MAINER BY BIRTH, THEN?

Or just another one of our "superior" citizenry?"

(How does one interpret that?)

[whathehell]

101. Finally..!

You can critique my "style" all you want,

but the bigger point is, you were are putting other americans down,

a shitty, and IMO, stupid thing to do, if in fact

you truly are a native born American,

so excuse me if I mistook you for one of our rude yank

bashing foreigners who comes here to self-inflate.

[mainer]

96. Your questions was what, exactly?

about whether one is born or not born in Maine, and therefore obviously not a traveler? Was that it?

[whathehell]

99. Sorry

...I don't give remedial reading lessons, lol.

There's not a word in my posts about "travelers", one way

or another, except to ask you why you assume I am not one of them.

WHY is it you think this "dodge" is working for you?

[mainer]

100. Ah, yes. " Insults. The last refuge of the ..."

well, you probably know how the rest of it goes.

I guess I just can't figure out what I said that got you started on the attack. Whatever.

I love Egypt. I love travel. If that gets you riled up, I have no idea why.

[whathehell]

103. Ah, yes bullshit. the last refuge of the cornered

Can't "imagine" what it is that "got you started on the 'attack'?

Well, try this:

"every time Americans start fleeing the other way has always been a pretty good time for me to travel"


SO glad you "love to travel", lol...You're constant repetition of the fact

makes you sound like a kid who just got his

first passport, thinking that, somehow, he's

in an exclusive "minority" here, LOL.


Hint: Check the Travel Forum.

[mainer]

105. As a nearly-60 year old woman who's packing for Dubai now

I have never been afraid of travel ... or of questioning what the press tells us.

I headed to Paris as soon as Americans started abandoning it right after the US invasion of Iraq. It was weirdly quiet but friendly, and a wonderful time to be there. And as soon as Parisians heard I was American, they went out of their way to make me feel welcome.
I flew to Malaysia right after 9/11, even though everyone told me I was nuts to visit an islamic country at that time.
I was among one of the first group of Americans to enter Vietnam after the war ended.
I was among the very first to enter Libya when Khaddafi relaxed travel restrictions for Americans. We camped in the desert where local Bedouins flocked around us, clamoring to have their photos taken with us.
And one of my best memories of all was in Egypt, bicycling through the Valley of the Kings decades ago, before all the tour buses ruined it. You could glide soundlessly past the tombs and not see another human being anywhere.

I am sad for Americans who are afraid of the world, who will never leave their borders for places that are challenging yet so rewarding. Yes, there are risks involved. It's a dangerous thing, as Bilbo Baggins said, just walking out of your house every morning. But at the end of my life, I am always going to be grateful for having seen the things I've seen.

[whathehell]

106. I'm sure we're all quite impressed and happy for you..

and as one who is older than you who has also

traveled extensively, I'll be glad to second

your expression of sadness, not only for Americans,

but for everyone who is "afraid of the world".

You see, what you're vast travels have yet to tell

you, it seems, is that "fear of travel" is

a trait not confined to one group of people.

Did you know, for instance, that there are more Americans who

have visited Europe than Europeans who have visited America?

When you visit Dubai, you may want to ask a couple of "average"

people how often they have left their country

and how far they may have wandered.

I think you'll get the idea...Have a good day.

[mainer]

107. I'm being invited by Dubai people

so I'll get a chance to ask them.

[whathehell]

113. That's nice.

[WolverineDG]

102. the only problem I see with staying in Luxor is that

you still have to get to Cairo to get out. If they close the Cairo airport, there's no way out (oh, there are, but you really really don't want to go there...)

I always thought the traffic was fun. No rules! :D

dg

[mainer]

104. I flew direct London-Luxor last year

Maybe things have changed. But Luxor does have its own airport.

[WolverineDG]

115. I wasn't aware that there were direct flights to Luxor

My flights connected in Cairo. It made sense at the time, since the latter part of my stay was going to be in Cairo anyway.

dg

[CabalPowered]

111. Cairo traffic is insane

Our taxi from the airport got rear-ended leaving the departure area. The driver stopped in the middle of traffic, got out, picked up the back bumper off the ground, threw it in the trunk and drove on. He didn't seem the least bit disturbed the incident either.

[WolverineDG]

114. I call it "Mr. Toad's Wild Ride on Steroids"

cuz, wow, traffic all over Egypt isn't for the faint-hearted. :wow: :scared: :wow:

dg

[mainer]

116. And add donkey carts to the mix

The funniest thing I ever saw in Alexandria was a traffic jam with cars, trucks, and a donkey cart. The traffic was at a standstill and the donkey was so impatient, it started butting its head against the truck that was stopped in front of it, to get it to move.

[WolverineDG]

117. and pedestrians crossing the street everywhere

including the highways. :wow:

I got to the point where I started following women in order to cross the major street between the Museum & the Square. :rofl: I figured the women wouldn't mind another woman following them across the street, & they didn't. One actually turned & smiled at me. :)

dg

[whathehell]

90. Can't imagine....

"No Americans have been killed or injured...yet".:eyes:

[mainer]

92. Why are you afraid of Egyptians?

They are warm, welcoming, wonderful people.

I'm more afraid of invasions by the US military.

[whathehell]

93. You assume too much..

what I might be "afraid" of is rioting people.

Then again, I'm SURE it's only "american" tourists who tend to avoid civil unrest.Duh.

[madmom]

110. WOW just WOW...

this thread is really nasty people, you sound like a bunch of teabaggers! If someone isn't acting or talking just like you then they are bad mouthed. Get a grip! :eyes:

[mainer]

112. I think a few people had too much caffeine

and they're in a contest to win the prize for "most outraged about something" award.