BBC: Egyptian 'Looters' found with secret police identification

[denem]

in Suez. (BBC World Service, five minutes ago.)

A pattern is emerging in the cities of Egypt today:-
The regular police have withdrawn;
The jails have been emptied, apparently by the authorities;
'Looters' and 'criminals' have been rioting while carrying
government IDs.

In response, residents and shopkeeper have set up check points
and defense groups in consultation with the Egyptian Army.

Cell phones and the Internet are still cut off.

No transcript yet
Live: http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/audioconsole/?stream=live

[denem]

1. Mubarak said he would not tolerate chaos, crime and looting

then he ordered it.

[slackmaster]

2. A looter who has a government ID is still a looter

Unrec for needless quotation marks.

[denem]

3. Right. Government agents are looters. So were Brown Shirts.

I get it now.

[slackmaster]

5. Is there any evidence that government employees were looting under orders from the government?

Or are they just opportunistic thieves taking advantage of a chaotic situation?

[suffragette]

4. Looks like government sponsored looting in an attempt

to discredit protests.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2014078461_egypt30.html

Demonstrations aimed at ending Mubarak's nearly 30 years in power were eclipsed for many by a growing fear of lawlessness. After police retreated from clashes with protesters, vigilantes armed with sticks and knives patrolled Cairo neighborhoods. Reports spread that escaped prisoners and thugs from the ruling party were roaming the capital and other cities on motorcycles.

"We were out guarding our neighborhood, and we caught a number of people attempting to loot, including five carrying identification cards from the Interior Ministry," said Kamal Banna, a labor activist from Suez, the scene of some of the most violent battles between security forces and protesters since the nationwide revolt began Tuesday.



Guess some forgot to take out the ID when they changed out of uniform and into street clothes.
On another note, the security thugs dressed in civvies and riding on motorcycles, then attacking neighborhoods reminds me of something not long ago. Anyone remember that?

[slackmaster]

7. Logic is a twittering little bird, chirping in a meadow.

Guess some forgot to take out the ID when they changed out of uniform and into street clothes.

Or maybe the FIVE who were carrying government ID cards are just opportunistic thieves taking advantage of a chaotic situation.

[suffragette]

8. Multiple reports from different areas

Good roundup here with source links:
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/01/is-egyptian-government-using-agents.html
Here are only a couple from that:
Al Jazeera reported today:

Ayman Mohyeldin reports that eyewitnesses have said "party thugs" associated with the Egyptian regime's Central Security Services - in plainclothes but bearing government-issued weapons - have been looting in Cairo. Ayman says the reports started off as isolated accounts but are now growing in number.
Similarly, Egyptian newspaper Al MasryAlyoum provides several eyewitness accounts of agents provacateur:

“They were sent by the government. The government got them out of prison and told them to rob us,” says Nameer Nashaat, a resident working alongside other youths to preserve order in the district. “When we caught them, they said that the Ministry of Interior has sent them.”

In Masr al-Qadeema, another district, scrap metal dealer Khaled Barouma, confirmed the same account. “The government let loose convicts. They let them out of prisons. We all know them in this neighborhood,” he said, adding that the neighborhood’s youth is trying to put the place in order by patrolling its streets with batons.

On today's "This Week" Al Jazeera Washington Bureau Chief Abderrahim Foukara noted the similarity of what is occuring to what happened in Tunisia and also noted that many of the thugs in Tunisia were later found out to be government agents.
http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/video/roundtable-crisis-egypt-12797225

[slackmaster]

10. Are you seriously suggesting that a person can't simultaneously be a cop and a criminal?

:crazy:

[Odin2005]

6. Classic False-Flag anti-rebel action.

Send your cronies to wreck havoc, then blame the rebels.

[underpants]

9. Yep. Several of us called BS on this yesterday

It is the tallest building in the area and the "looters" entered from the roof. Short of invisible helicopters this had to be a inside top-down job.

[SoCalDem]

11. These people may just see the handwriting on the wall

and may be trying to grab what they can before they are out of work..

[Turborama]

12. Kick There will be copius amounts of evidence about how this was a planned tactic by Mubarak

Many Egyptians have been interviewed and sending multiple messages out about it for days.

This is just the beginning of the news from MSM coming out about it.

Even AC360 are reporting on it in that context now.