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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:33 PM Original message |
It's not THAT hard, Mr. President....just SAY it... "We Call On President Mubarak To Resign" |
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ananda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
1. Who cares about backing. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Of course it is, but no government anywhere ever does something just because |
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Mojeoux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:50 PM Response to Reply #2 |
41. This is the Moral thing to do. Un-reccing Good Posts is..........NOT!!! nt |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
3. He can't do that. It would make it look like he was too involved and part of the process |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:35 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. As I recall, the Reagan people did that when Marcos was pushed out by "People Power" |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:40 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. I don't remember him publicly calling for Marcos to step down.nt |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:44 PM Response to Reply #14 |
23. I edited the post to change it to the administration, rather than Reagan himself. |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:45 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Didn't they privately tell him to step down though? nt |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:48 PM Response to Reply #4 |
34. I don't think that's so. He pretty much stuck by his side... nt |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 08:47 PM Response to Reply #4 |
78. why act like reagan people? |
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Davis_X_Machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:36 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Sure he can... |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:39 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Calling on Mubarak to resign doesn't require Senate approval |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 06:08 PM Response to Reply #3 |
53. LOL. The billions in aid already put us squarley behind the dictator - at our own detriment. |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 06:17 PM Response to Reply #53 |
63. true. and anything he says now can be construed to mean something else, to our own detriment. |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 06:22 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. Giving billions in hard power used to torture has it's obvious blowback. |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 06:26 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. What did I just agree with? but what would his words mean |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-11 01:03 PM Response to Reply #3 |
83. Sure he can. It simply takes courage and a commitment to democracy. |
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CaliforniaPeggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
5. I agree... |
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Cirque du So-What (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:44 PM Response to Reply #5 |
22. Yes, I'm SURE that's it! |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
6. "unrec's" on THIS? typical |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:44 PM Response to Reply #6 |
21. Is it that surprising that people might disagree with you?... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:45 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Deleted message |
grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 06:11 PM Response to Reply #6 |
54. To unrec with this is to stand by all powerful oligarhies. |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-11 01:20 PM Response to Reply #6 |
90. Working overtime now. You thought their job was hard before! n/t |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:38 PM Response to Original message |
8. While it may be the ethically correct, I am not sure they require our interference... |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:39 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. I don't think some people there even WANT our interference. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:39 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Actually, such a call would be signalling our NON-interference. |
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Davis_X_Machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:39 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. It might not be wanted over there... |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:41 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. It's not OUR itch...it's the wish of the people of Egypt. |
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Davis_X_Machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:49 PM Response to Reply #15 |
40. Did they tell you? |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:50 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. There in the streets, in the millions, telling the WORLD! |
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Davis_X_Machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:58 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. All 600 of them -- counting the medics, mechanics, and civilian.. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 06:00 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. They sent in more in the last week. |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 06:12 PM Response to Reply #8 |
56. The billions we gave to prop up the police state makes us required to step up fotr the people. |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 06:16 PM Response to Reply #56 |
62. Doubling a wrong makes it three times as bad. |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 06:20 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. That is exactly what we are asking for, the soft statement, such as: |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 06:24 PM Response to Reply #66 |
70. That could be seen as taking sides and raise grave doubts about the legitimacy of the uprising. |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 06:36 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. +1 |
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polmaven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 08:09 PM Response to Reply #70 |
76. You nailed it. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
10. Obama/US should call for Mubarak to step down -- now .... |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
16. Yeah, cause sticking our nose into Middle Eastern affairs |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:42 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. +1000 |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:42 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. We're taking sides when the president says NOTHING |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:45 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. How the fuck do you arrive at this conclusion? |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:46 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. At least, at the very least, we could pull the troops out of the Sinai |
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Davis_X_Machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:56 PM Response to Reply #28 |
44. They're less than 600 in number... |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:58 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. They shouldn't be there at all. Their presence sows distrust of our intentions. |
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Davis_X_Machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 06:01 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. The Israelis and Egyptians... |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:46 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice" |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:47 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Boy, that Obama fellow is just damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:49 PM Response to Reply #29 |
39. "If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem". |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 06:16 PM Response to Reply #25 |
61. They are bringing it about by themselves, let's clear up our dirty laundry by standing up |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 06:14 PM Response to Reply #16 |
59. Then we have to balance out the billions that went to torture people, by asking for his ouster. |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-11 01:21 PM Response to Reply #16 |
91. Like all those checks Obama sent over weren't sticking our nose in. Very funny. n/t |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-11 04:14 PM Response to Reply #91 |
98. You so-called "progressives" have become overnight converts |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
17. Because its stupid to do so. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:43 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. We've called on Gbagbo to step down in Ivory Coast...if that's acceptable |
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Davis_X_Machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:59 PM Response to Reply #20 |
47. UN and OAU want him out... |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 06:14 PM Response to Reply #47 |
60. Thanks for getting this ... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:48 PM Response to Reply #17 |
37. The administration had no problem telling Zelaya to stay out of Honduras |
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Davis_X_Machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 06:02 PM Response to Reply #37 |
50. OAS backed both of those up. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 06:12 PM Response to Reply #50 |
58. OAS is not an independent body. n/t |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 06:23 PM Response to Reply #37 |
68. US again was in line with the UN. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 06:53 PM Response to Reply #68 |
73. Nope. Rice had the gavel in the Security Council |
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barbiegeek (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-11 01:19 PM Response to Reply #17 |
88. +10000 |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
27. You know that expression, "it isn't always about you"? |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:47 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. The point is to make it clear that we AREN'T sticking our noses in. |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:48 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. I fail to see how calling on Mubarak to resign would qualify as "not sticking our noses in". |
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Davis_X_Machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 06:03 PM Response to Reply #32 |
51. All 600 of them, including the dental detachment. n/t |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:47 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. +1...nt |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
30. it just seems like this is some theater show to you |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:48 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. No....it's history.... |
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Swede (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
36. It would be a mistake for him to do so. |
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rury (629 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:55 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. President Obama has already said it's up to the |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
52. It's a freakin NO BRAINER. The game is up. GTFO. Everyone knows what the US equivocating means. |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
55. I think he's right not to say it... |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
57. Sounds like something he would never do in a million years. |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 06:18 PM Response to Reply #57 |
65. One puppet can not stand up to another puppet without the puppeteer pulling the strings |
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Modern_Matthew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
64. Not needed... |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 06:23 PM Response to Reply #64 |
69. Agreed... |
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DCKit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
74. Unrec. It may be the right thing to to, but it's far from diplomatic. |
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justiceischeap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
75. I remember a time on DU when everyone was PISSED that Bush had the audacity to invade Iraq |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 08:45 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. Calling on a tyrant to resign is nothing like invading Iraq. |
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justiceischeap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 08:55 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. And if Mubarak somehow actually holds on to his power? |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 09:04 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. We need to slide as many of our citizens as we can out of there, first. |
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justiceischeap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 09:09 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. Agreed, though sadly, we may never be able to approach them as friends and equals |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-11 01:04 PM Response to Reply #75 |
84. So a speech is morally equivalent to invading a sovreign nation? |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
82. We could create an instantaneous power vacuum |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-11 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
85. Mubarak will end up in the US. There will be a closed door meeting in the WH, followed |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-11 01:24 PM Response to Reply #85 |
92. Mubarak will not end up in the US. Nor will we give him a |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-11 01:57 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. As the character in "Roadhouse" said, "Opinions vary." nt |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-11 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
86. and, if he did and Mubarak did not resign... then what? |
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barbiegeek (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-11 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
87. No, he should stay out of it!!!! |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-11 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
89. He will soon enough. . After Mubarak has already stepped down and is safe in Dubai. Rec'd n/t |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-11 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
93. Rec'd. The Dictator V The People! |
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barbiegeek (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-11 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
94. After IRAQ, we should just STFU |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-11 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
96. Mubarak is an asset they'd hate to lose. |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-11 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
97. Stay out of Egypt's business Mr. President, don't be a fool. |
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