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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 10:45 PM
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History is being made in modern Arab history. Too bad that the United States is on the wrong side.


History is Being Made—Without the U.S.
By Amitabh Pal
Managing Editor of The Progressive
January 30, 2011

This year may very well prove to be the most memorable in modern Arab history. Too bad that the United States is on the wrong side.

The most populous Arab country has an importance—culturally and historically—that cannot be overstated. From the Al-Azhar seminary, the most respected Sunni religious institution, to Egyptian cinema, the most popular in the area, the country exerts an influence that other Arab countries can only dream of. If tiny Tunisia made its presence felt through the region by the power of a good example, imagine the tremors that the fall of Hosni Mubarak will generate.

That’s why the U.S. role is so disappointing. It has done itself no credit by its mealy-mouthedness—alienating countless Arabs in the process. The United States was with Tunisian tyrant Zine el-Abidine Ben Ali till almost the last minute. President Obama made no mention of the brave Egyptian protesters in his State of the Union speech. Vice President Joe Biden said he doesn’t consider Hosni Mubarak a dictator. As recently as Friday evening, Obama avoided asking Mubarak to step down. (Do expect, though, that U.S. calls for democratic change will become more emphatic if Mubarak’s situation becomes more precarious.)

It’s still just January, and the Arab youth are already making 2011 a landmark year. If only the world’s lone superpower was with them.

Read the full article at:

http://www.progressive.org/ap013011.html
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 10:46 PM
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1. Unrec...
SSDD.

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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 10:57 PM
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5. The Progressive does have a role..
...I look at it every ninety days or so to see if Property is still Theft.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 11:45 PM
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14. Rec
DDSS

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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 10:48 PM
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2. Is Obama's blessing really that important to the Egyptians?
Edited on Sun Jan-30-11 10:50 PM by rucky
or just to Americans?
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 11:01 PM
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7. It's important for everyone if this nation really stands for human rights and democracy.
Edited on Sun Jan-30-11 11:02 PM by Better Believe It
And if instead this American government supports torture, repression and dictatorship you don't have a problem with that?

I don't know about you, but I think most progressives don't want this nation and its people hated and feared by the great mass of humanity in the world because of reactionary policies.

Do you think the people of Egypt welcome the demonstrations in U.S. cities in solidarity with their fight for freedom and a better life?

I know they do.

Do you think they are angry with the continued U.S. governments military and political support to the Mubarak dictatorship?

You bet they are.

Do they want Obama's "blessing"?

No.

They just don't want him to give any more military and other support to the bloody dictator any longer.

Guess that's just too much to expect from "the leader of the free world".



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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 10:52 PM
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3. We don't know all the facts.
But, if I were a betting man, I would bet that the majority of the American people stand behind the Egyptian people marching in the streets, rather than Hosni Mubarak?
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purrFect Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 10:53 PM
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4. why would the supporters of the dictators behave any differently? this is a teachable moment
for many americans, too bad most don't read anymore.
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 11:01 PM
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6. Actually, not according to Mohamed ElBaradei
If he somehow gains power, he and Obama are fairly sympatico:

Vienna - International Atomic Energy Egency (IAEA) chief Mohamed ElBaradei said Friday that US President Barack Obama deserved to win the Nobel Prize for Peace because he had rekindled hope for world peace and had taken the lead on nuclear non-proliferation. ElBaradei won the prize himself in 2005 jointly with the Vienna-based IAEA.
"I cannot think of anyone today more deserving of this honour," said Elbaradei, adding he was "absolutely delighted."
"In less than a year in office, he has transformed the way we look at ourselves and the world we live in and rekindled hope for a world at peace with itself," the Egyptian IAEA director general said.
ElBaradei commended Obama on his "unshakeable commitment to diplomacy, mutual respect and dialogue as the best means of resolving conflicts."

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/news/289422,elbaradei-obama-has-rekindled-hope-for-word-peace.html
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 11:03 PM
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9. This kinda lends credence that we've been working behind the scenes
in Egypt and looking towards ElBaradei to take charge...
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 11:12 PM
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10. That was over a year ago. Read what Mohamed ElBaradei has to say now.
Edited on Sun Jan-30-11 11:13 PM by Better Believe It
He released the following declaration just before returning to Egypt this past Thursday:


Manifesto for Change in Egypt
By Mohamed ElBaradei


When Egypt had parliamentary elections only two months ago, they were completely rigged. The party of President Hosni Mubarak left the opposition with only 3 percent of the seats. Imagine that. And the American government said that it was “dismayed.” Well, frankly, I was dismayed that all it could say is that it was dismayed. The word was hardly adequate to express the way the Egyptian people felt.
Then, as protests built in the streets of Egypt following the overthrow of Tunisia’s dictator, I heard Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s assessment that the government in Egypt is “stable” and “looking for ways to respond to the legitimate needs and interests of the Egyptian people”. I was flabbergasted—and I was puzzled. What did she mean by stable, and at what price? Is it the stability of 29 years of “emergency” laws, a president with imperial power for 30 years, a parliament that is almost a mockery, a judiciary that is not independent? Is that what you call stability? I am sure not. And I am positive that it is not the standard you apply to other countries. What we see in Egypt is pseudo-stability, because real stability only comes with a democratically elected government.

If you would like to know why the United States does not have credibility in the Middle East, that is precisely the answer. People were absolutely disappointed in the way you reacted to Egypt’s last election. You reaffirmed their belief that you are applying a double standard for your friends, and siding with an authoritarian regime just because you think it represents your interests. We are staring at social disintegration, economic stagnation, political repression, and we do not hear anything from you, the Americans, or for that matter from the Europeans.

So when you say the Egyptian government is looking for ways to respond to the needs of the Egyptian people, I feel like saying, “Well, it’s too late!” This isn’t even good realpolitik. We have seen what happened in Tunisia, and before that in Iran. That should teach people there is no stability except when you have government freely chosen by its own people.

Of course, you in the West have been sold the idea that the only options in the Arab world are between authoritarian regimes and Islamic jihadists. That’s obviously bogus. If we are talking about Egypt, there is a whole rainbow variety of people who are secular, liberal, market-oriented, and if you give them a chance they will organize themselves to elect a government that is modern and moderate. They want desperately to catch up with the rest of the world.

Instead of equating political Islam with al Qaeda all the time, take a closer look. Historically, Islam was hijacked about 20 or 30 years after the Prophet and interpreted in such a way that the ruler has absolute power and is accountable only to God. That, of course, was a very convenient interpretation for whoever was the ruler. Only a few weeks ago, the leader of a group of ultra-conservative Muslims in Egypt issued a fatwa, or religious edict, calling for me to “repent” for inciting public opposition to President Hosni Mubarak, and declaring the ruler has a right to kill me, if I do not desist. This sort of thing moves us toward the dark ages. But did we hear a single word of protest or denunciation from the Egyptian government? No.

Despite all of this, I have hoped to find a way toward change through peaceful means. In a country like Egypt, it’s not easy to get people to put down their names and government ID numbers on a document calling for fundamental democratic reforms, yet a million people have done just that. The regime, like the monkey that sees nothing and hears nothing, simply ignored us.

As a result, the young people of Egypt have lost patience, and what you’ve seen in the streets these last few days has all been organized by them. I have been out of Egypt because that is the only way I can be heard. I have been totally cut off from the local media when I am there. But I am going back to Cairo, and back onto the streets because, really, there is no choice. You go out there with this massive number of people, and you hope things will not turn ugly, but so far, the regime does not seem to have gotten that message.

Each day it gets harder to work with Mubarak’s government, even for a transition, and for many of the people you talk to in Egypt, that is no longer an option. They think he has been there 30 years, he is 83 years old, and it is time for a change. For them, the only option is a new beginning.

How long this can go on, I don’t know. In Egypt, as in Tunisia, there are other forces than just the president and the people. The army has been quite neutral so far, and I would expect it to remain that way. The soldiers and officers are part of the Egyptian people. They know the frustrations. They want to protect the nation.

But this week the Egyptian people broke the barrier of fear, and once that is broken, there is no stopping them.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article27371.htm

The above statement is a public declaration and not copyrighted material. BBI

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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 11:18 PM
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11. Yes, but it's interesting
... that he does not say Obama; he speaks directly to Hillary Clinton. Not that that is fair, but I think it suggests what I said: they are friends.

Not that it means anything. I do not think ElBaradei will be gaining power. And it wouldn't be prudent for the American government to take sides and support him anyway.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 11:25 PM
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12. The Obama administration should not support any specific political current in Egypt.

I believe that most Egyptians simply don't want the administration to continue to coddle or provide military assistance to the regime.
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LooseWilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 11:03 PM
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8. The US government, Dem or Repub, just likes it some status quo...
because status quo keeps the US on top.

Of course there're warnings about violence in Egypt, the violence might be lead to change that doesn't obey US dictates. Funny to note the difference in tone when it's a "friendly" police state facing popular protests, rather than an "unfriendly" theocracy.

I'm just waiting to hear the outcry when it dawns on some that a new Egyptian government (or even the chaos of a period of transition) might not continue to enforce the blockade of Gaza. When that detail begins to dawn... the Hamas-phobes will begin rending their garments, or the bombings will begin.
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 11:41 PM
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13. The US government is at odds with the best interests of its own people. No reason things should be
different abroad.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 11:47 PM
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15. +1
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