So would Obama Sign a DADT Repeal?

[Still a Democrat]

Given the recent revelation he is a conservative, and the long time musing about how he drags his feet on the issue and speculation about how much he wants it repealed, I wonder why there's a broad assumption here he would approve the repeal?

[Codeine]

1. :facepalm: nt

[MineralMan]

2. Apparently, you have not been listening.

This is how President Obama wants DADT to end. He has said it many, many times. To suggest that he would veto such a bill is specious. He will sign the repeal bill with great relish.

But, you knew that, didn't you?

[Skinner]

4. I think the OP is sarcasm. (nt)

[TheWraith]

11. You sure?

Because people around here have been saying the exact same thing, seriously, for months.

[Still a Democrat]

12. Nice catch, boss

Did I forget my taggy? :)

[MineralMan]

24. Could be. Others are saying the equivalent, though, and have for

a very long time. I guess I'm weary of it, you know.

[BzaDem]

8. I think the OP agrees with you. n/t

[jberryhill]

32. Apparently you haven't been following the weight of opinion on DU

I'm a DU reader, so I know Obama opposes gay marriage and he lies about being a "fierce advocate" to dupe gay donors into contributing to his campaigns.

You should try reading this site sometime.

[MineralMan]

37. Apparently, you're incorrect.

I follow it very closely.

[jberryhill]

39. Then you would know

...that the only reason the DoJ appeals the DADT cases is because of Obama's deep-seated hatred for gay people.

[whistler162]

3. No he is actually signing a EO that will make DADT a

Constitutional amendment!


GEEEEEEZZZZZZZZZ

[Tx4obama]

26. No it is not an EO, he will be signing a 'bill' passed by Congress. n/t

[Teaser]

5. .

.

[ruggerson]

6. Of course he'll sign it

just because he was not a "fierce advocate" in ending DADT doesn't mean he won't do what is good for him politically. 10%+ of Democratic voters are gay. He can count

[spanone]

7. early to be drinking

[Ozymanithrax]

9. No sarcasm tag...so our question must be real.

:rofl:

[Bluenorthwest]

10. What would you say is your objective with this post?

What is the result you hope for?

[Still a Democrat]

13. Maybe some will realize Obama is more progressive than believed

lately around here?

[jberryhill]

36. Sometimes people just want to express themselves

And I, for one, had it up to here (gestures at a high place) with all of the crap slung at Obama by those ostensibly on our side on this.

[cali]

14. if you bothered following what's going on, you'd know he'll sign it.

[Still a Democrat]

15. I'm offering it for discussion

I'm asking those that now believe he's a conservative that can't be trusted - why are you so sure he'd sign the repeal?

[11 Bravo]

33. Riiiiiight. Stick to that story.

[jberryhill]

38. Oh I have followed this closely on DU

Therefore I know that Obama hates gay people and only uses the "fierce advocate" line to dupe gays out of campaign contributions.

Following DU closely for the last two years, you learn a lot of things like that.

[Pisces]

16. Will the stupidity and ignorance never end??

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

17. YES!!! Happy to unrec this anti-Obama rhetoric!

[Pab Sungenis]

18. Depends on how close to the adjournment it's sent to him.

If it can be pocket-vetoed he might let it die that way. Barring that....

[Still a Democrat]

19. "If it can be pocket-vetoed he might let it die that way"

You think that could happen?

[Pab Sungenis]

20. It wouldn't surprise me.

He was out pushing for the public option when he had already traded it away early in the health care "negotiations."

See my other post on how I think he might be able to sign the law and effectively veto it anyhow.

[BzaDem]

21. When you are proven wrong, will you admit that your other misperceptions about Obama might be false

as well?

[Still a Democrat]

22. Others of the "Obama is a conservative" crowd

are assuming he will sign it, because he said he would. They also supposedly don't trust him to keep his word. So why do they assume he'll sign it? (Answer - they know he's isn't conservative)

[Pab Sungenis]

23. They'll be lessened if he ever allows the policy to die.

They'll be proven false when he finally signs a repeal of DOMA, or STOPS BLOODY APPEALING DECISIONS STRIKING DOWN ANTI-GAY LAWS, whichever comes first.

[phleshdef]

28. Geez, it must hurt so badly that Obama did this, did it HIS way and is gonna get credit for it.

And there is absolutely nothing you can do to spin it into a negative that has any merit. Zero, zilch, zip. DADT it being repealed and Barack Obama plotted the course to make it so and it worked. Thats the truth and thats the way history will report it from now till forever more.

[Codeine]

35. And he did it properly.

No bitching about activist judges or unchecked executive power. No easily-reversed executive decision.

[MineralMan]

29. And why would he do a pocket veto?

How far can you stretch your hatred of the man?

[demmiblue]

25. This post is not conducive to community building.

We should all be celebrating; not attempting to score cheap points.

[TBF]

27. Well I am pretty damned mad at Obama over myriad issues, but I will still celebrate

this victory. It has been a long time coming, and should have been repealed immediately. Kudos to our president if he can at least get this done.

[Name removed]

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[jberryhill]

31. Neither has all the shit slinging about how he "hates gays" for two years

[Codeine]

40. Almost nothing posted at DU has been conducive to community building

for the last several weeks.

[kenny blankenship]

34. sure, just remember though, repeal under this legislation is not immediate

and what one Congress does, another Congress can undo. Most countries with non-discrimination policies against homosexuals in their militaries got there through their judicial system. Because what courts do, legislatures find exceedingly difficult/impossible to undo.

[Tx4obama]

41. There haven't been any discharges under DADT since at least October 21st

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/11/30/dadt.discharges/index.html?eref=edition_us
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4583640

[Tx4obama]

42. President Obama has already said he will sign the bill next week. n/t