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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 02:57 PM
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My lord, right now we have a RIGHT WINGER on the thom Hartman show
making a Marxist argument... FUNNY shit really.

Public workers do not produce anything. That my dear IS a marxist argument.

Dime on the dollar this right winger don't know he is making a CLASSIC marxist argument.
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 02:59 PM
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1. I love Hartman, he comes on at 3 here
:thumbsup:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 03:01 PM
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2. last caller of the day, funny shit I tell you
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 03:05 PM
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4. Jeez - didn't realize the time. Man that guy was all talking points
wasn't he? Nothing behind it at all. "do you ever drive on a public road." Jesus, he couldn't even answer that.

you could hear the laugh quelling up in Hartmann's throat.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 03:11 PM
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7. I was
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 03:07 PM
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5. Tom always knows how to handle them
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 03:04 PM
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3. Do you by any chance
have a quote online for the marxist argument? I'd like to use it in a LTTE for our local online webzine.

Thanks!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 03:10 PM
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6. I am afraid I don't off hand. When I get home I will
look for a good quote for you.

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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 03:21 PM
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9. Thanks so much!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 03:28 PM
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10. here, the closest in a cursory look
The productive forces are the result of man’s practical energy, but that energy is in turn circumscribed by the conditions in which man is placed by the productive forces already acquired, by the form of society which exists before him, which he does not create, which is the product of the preceding generation.

Marx, 1846 Letter to Annenkov (1846)


 http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/subject/quotes/index.htm

I will look for a more specific one...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 04:31 PM
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12. Oh and here is the rest from Lenin
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 05:00 PM
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15. Thank you but I may need a translator..
IOW I have no idea what it says. :shrug:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 05:09 PM
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16. To the quote you were looking,
essentially Lenin wrote that the Rentier Class (that is the investors) are parasites since they produce nothing.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 05:58 PM
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19. Are the rentiers the state workers, then?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 06:23 PM
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21. In his mind...
and they get all those good things for doing nothing due to the unions.

I checked el rushbo is makin' them too... must be the talking point.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 04:34 PM
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14. Thom is carried delayed on many stations around the country
try WCPT in Chicago. He will be on there for another 1.5 hours:
http://chicagosprogressivetalk.com/
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 03:15 PM
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8. I only caught the end but apparently Thom recognized the guy from previous calls
So they must have discussed stuff before. I haven't watched the show much, but I may try to make it a habit after the way he handled that person.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 04:00 PM
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11. Does anyone ever ask these people to actually "define" the terms they use?
Easy for them to roll words out of their big mouths without knowing what the words actually mean.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 04:32 PM
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13. He didn't use the term, but I recognized it
I went looking and it is the talking point of the day... Unions are parasitic agents, especially PUBLIC unions.

It is a marxist argument, and I am sure they have no clue where it came from...it is upside down, since it would be rentier (aka those living from investments) that is the parasite in classic marxist thought, but hey... ironic as hell
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 03:04 PM
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22. Almost fell of my chair when Tweety actually asked someone to explain "socialism" to him
The woman didn't have a clue. It was great.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 05:11 PM
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17. You Could Hear the anger in that guy's voice(Armen?)... Thom Exposed the righties
Edited on Wed Feb-16-11 05:13 PM by fascisthunter
in a way that cuts through their BS, and he was soooo angry he had to call in. But when he did, he had his ass handed to him and sounded like a nutcase.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 05:22 PM
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18. Yes, also the talking points are losing
all their force as the people slowly awaken to the reality. They will be sidelined (I hope) soon.
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 06:13 PM
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20. I just heard it. OMG!!!
That dumbass could be from my hometown. Loads of 'em like that here. They blame my state's problems on unions, even though unions are practically non-existent here. I wish Thom had pointed out that Wall Street traders and bankers, the biggest parasites of all, don't produce anything, either.
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