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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 10:10 AM
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Might Tucson firefighter Mark Ekstrum have saved lives had he not refused to respond to Giffords?
Edited on Fri Feb-18-11 10:13 AM by wndycty
Wow! This is absolutely disgusting! Seriously if it can be proved that some of the victims might have survived had there been a faster response, can this guy be held accountable for the "confusion and delay" he caused?

Firefighter refused call to Giffords shooting

TUCSON (AP) — A veteran firefighter refused to respond to last month's deadly shooting spree that left Rep. Gabrielle Giffords wounded because he had different political views than his colleagues and "did not want to be part of it," according to internal city memos.
Mark Ekstrum's insubordination may have delayed his unit's response because firefighters had to stop at another station to pick up a replacement for him, the Arizona Daily Star reported.

While the crew was not among the first called to the supermarket where six people were killed and 13 others wounded, a memo from Ekstrum's supervisor said his actions caused "confusion and delay" during the emergency.

Ekstrum's team, which is specially trained to handle large medical emergencies, was dispatched to assist 90 minutes after the Jan. 8 shooting.

The 28-year veteran of the Tucson Fire Department retired two days later while his supervisors were still considering how to discipline him, according to the Star, which obtained the memos about the incident through a public records request.
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http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2011-02-18-firefighter-giffords-dispatch_N.htm?csp=usat.me
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 10:12 AM
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1. "Negligent homicide" ??
:shrug:
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Crabby Appleton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 10:15 AM
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2. Doubt it given the following info from the article
that the seriously injured had already been transported to the hospital.

"Ekstrum's crew had been dispatched at 12:03 p.m., seven minutes after the last patient arrived at the hospital, said Joe Gulotta, an assistant fire chief. The team was responding as a support crew with a large delivery truck with tents, medical supplies, water and cots used to assist those who were not seriously injured."
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Ptah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 10:17 AM
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4. +1
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nykym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 10:16 AM
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3. Actions do have
consequences. To boot this wonderful example of humanity put in for retirement 2 days after the incident.
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 10:18 AM
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5. A guy who decided that his politicla oponents are best dead...
These people are supposed to supply needed aid, support, and life giving aid to people. Their ideology must be checked at the door.

They guy must be fired.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 10:19 AM
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6. Didn't know emergency personnel could pick and choose which emergencies they'd like to respond
Edited on Fri Feb-18-11 10:20 AM by AzDar
to. Unbelievable! :wow:
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 10:19 AM
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7. Why are some people defending this guy?
Just wondering.....
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 10:33 AM
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8. It's not a matter of defending
It's a matter of stating the facts. I don't see anyone defending or condoning what he did.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 10:55 AM
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10. Seriously.
I guess we really know the answer. Ugly, though.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 10:52 AM
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9. From what I have read elsewhere, there was conflict on the crew and it was not about Giffords
Not defending him regardless...
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