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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 01:57 PM
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Fly over country is rising... and I am sure this is
NOT what the GOP expected. I mean, fly over country is not where people expect activism. I mean it is NOT Berkeley, and the land of fruits and nuts... or New York, were lattes and volvos... well you get the stereotypes.

I am going to bet that the GOP expected they could get away with this in the midwest, in fly over country because of those stereotypes. Alas, plutocracy will not be tolerated in fly over country.. something tells me that the GOP forgot the history of that part of the country... as they can be called the Berkeley of the Midwest, sans birkeonstocks fruits anda nuts... just plenty of cheese.

So yes, the short story is... the midwest is rising. What started to Madison has gone to Indiana and Ohio. So yes, that midwest, flyover country is defying all stereotyps and living to their history...

Go UNIONS.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 01:59 PM
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1. When the oligarchs lose their favorite "useful idiots" they have
NOTHING.

Assuming that "Joe Sixpack" the construction guy will never figure it out is typical the kind of blindness you see among those who think themselves untouchable.
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 02:02 PM
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2. See what happens when an "elite" class is unread in history.
The thought that anyone would study such a thing as labor history, how droll and uncool!!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 02:04 PM
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4. Selfish I know, but when I am ready to go to print
I will have a ready made market with the UNIONS.
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:04 PM
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22. I think you are replying to someone else.
Or this is enthymematic beyond my comprehension.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 02:02 PM
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3. Go union!
Send the modern GOP back to the slimy rock in Dixie it crawled out from under. They can have their little enclave in Mississippi and part of Alabama, (sorry), but I want my country back.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 02:06 PM
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5. We are reclaiming our rights, come what may-then we are going to reclaim our government here. n/t
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 02:12 PM
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6. Michigan Union members protested at the State Capitol today,
State workers did last week. Gov. Snyder says he wants to stop the power of public employee unions here, but says he would "need a lot of help, to do it." I don't know whether to laugh or cry about this, because it could get very ugly here.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 02:13 PM
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7. so far we have....
Wi, IND, OH and MICHIGAN.

It is amazing,
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 02:20 PM
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8. While this is not Berkeley, it is Madison.
Madison, Ann Arbor, Champaign-Urbana, and Bloomington are all a bit different from their surroundings. I'm not saying that nothing's going on, but it isn't that surprising to see some action there in the first place if you know the Midwestern region.
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 02:24 PM
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9. NOT Ann Arbor - Lansing, Mi.
The two are not similar, at all.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 02:29 PM
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10. I've not been to Lansing.
But I can't see it being that different from Madison or Columbus, which are both state capitals with large state universities present.
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 02:36 PM
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11. The differences are/were the auto plants. Tens of thousands of
current/former auto plant workers live here. East Lansing, home of MSU might as well be as far away as Ann Arbor. I've lived here for over 40 years, and Lansing is a blue collar town, with a huge union contingent. Angry union members. Really, Lansing is not similar to Ann Arbor OR East Lansing, where the people of Lansing and East Lansing take great pride in looking down on each other, and have for as long as I've been here. They're both great, IMO.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 03:29 PM
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18. in the larger scheme of things, they are very similar
From the Michigan V. Michigan State point of view they are very different.


Politically, culturally, socially and economically this rivalry makes little to no difference.




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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 02:38 PM
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12. Of course but think of the stereotypes
and how the midwest has been mostly quiet over things like the war.

I honestly do not think they expected the people to rise... Oh and why I also said that it is not the land of fruit and nuts, but there is a history there that they forgot.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 02:52 PM
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13. Nonsense. The GOP knows exactly what it's doing
The Global Capitalists need canaries for the Austerity coal mines, and Walker is just but one. They did the same thing with Reagan. Authoritarianism and union busting work well when wages are depressed, unemployment is high, and your political opposition is only interested in fund-raising for the next election.

Right now 'flyover country' doesn't even know what's going on. The M$M won't 'present' it to them until the talking points are all in place.
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 03:13 PM
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15. That's not insulting at all n/t
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 03:24 PM
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17. How is it insulting?
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 07:24 PM
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21. "Right now 'flyover country' doesn't even know what's going on."
The assumption being that the coasts understand this while us rubes in the middle are clueless. Plenty of us here know just what this douchebag is doing.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 03:11 PM
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14. And in WISCONSIN, of all places, to start an assault on organized labor!
Wow. Just wow.

Bake
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 03:23 PM
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16. They picked on labor and labor in the midwest.............
has a long and storied history. Of course, that's what they were aiming for all along, but they would have been smarter to try this somewhere else first. Like Tennessee.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 03:34 PM
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19. You take away our benefits we come after you.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 03:45 PM
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20. Really hate the phrase "flyover country" but your core point is true
I sense you're using it in the ironic sense, anyway, as in, the GOP thought "the heartland" would do whatever it wanted them to, and now they're in for a rude awakening.

Indeed. I'm in a decent place in life because of a Midwestern labor union (Dad was UAW for 44 years). I could not be prouder of the Midwest.
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