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otohara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 01:12 PM Original message |
Why Do They Want Us, Poor, Sick, Hungry,Homeless? |
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arbusto_baboso (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
1. After awhile it ceases to be about money. |
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CommonSensePLZ (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-25-11 12:34 AM Response to Reply #1 |
75. But they're "Libertarian"! nt |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
2. no, their labor costs go way down |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 01:31 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. The profits will still go down when we can't afford their products and services. |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 02:55 PM Response to Reply #10 |
40. They have Asia to prop up sales. They don't need us. It isn't |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-11 08:28 PM Response to Reply #40 |
72. "Old as a nation"? What utter crap. |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-11 11:56 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. They control 95% of our wealth, there isn't much room for growth. |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-25-11 12:21 AM Response to Reply #72 |
74. What do intense earthquakes have to do with anything? |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-25-11 07:26 AM Response to Reply #74 |
77. So true. But you only mentioned Asia. |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 08:01 AM Response to Reply #77 |
91. Yes, I've heard of the Ring of Fire |
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Xicano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-25-11 01:02 AM Response to Reply #10 |
76. Offset by concentration of the wealth. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 04:04 PM Response to Reply #2 |
63. Exactly. I like to call this "The Ten Dollar Hooker Solution" |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
3. and willing to work for cheap |
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Lindsay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
4. And besides, life is a zero-sum game |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
5. of course they do |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
6. Cheap and scared labor |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
7. They don't see the big picture... |
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Cal33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 02:13 PM Response to Reply #7 |
26. I believe you are correct in that this is the way they think. But, |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 02:25 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. This is true. And this is also why ............. |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 02:54 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. "That there socialism stuff in unamurkin" |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 03:00 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Yeah, that's my stock answer to any libertarian.......... |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 03:16 PM Response to Reply #43 |
52. Its offical. |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 03:33 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Well that's one vote......... |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 03:46 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. I'd work to get you elected for sure. |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 03:52 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Well, maybe I'll get off my ass and talk to a few people......... |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 03:58 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. I want to run someday, |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 04:59 PM Response to Reply #62 |
67. The national offices, yes.............. |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 03:34 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. +1, n/t |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 04:51 PM Response to Reply #39 |
65. It's the gateway to communisum! |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 03:01 PM Response to Reply #34 |
44. The workers need to understand that the Captialist want |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 03:14 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. Yes they ARE Evil. See I even capitalize the "E"......... |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 06:44 PM Response to Reply #50 |
68. Evil exists because we don't stand up to it. |
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Cal33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-11 01:07 PM Response to Reply #50 |
69. Too many corporate executives as well as politicians have |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-11 01:13 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. What you described is one of my BIGGEST...... |
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Cal33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-25-11 08:15 AM Response to Reply #70 |
80. I don't think it's the system -- whether capitalism or socialism -- that |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-25-11 11:45 AM Response to Reply #80 |
90. When I argue about systems, I look at the ............. |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 03:07 PM Response to Reply #7 |
46. Just like in the medevial times |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 03:09 PM Response to Reply #7 |
47. I agree |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 03:38 PM Response to Reply #47 |
57. It's exactly like gambling to them, they play the game to win knowing they can cash out with some |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
8. Part of it is the sociopathic aspect of unbridled capitalism, another is wanting to crush this |
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Cal33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 02:20 PM Response to Reply #8 |
30. Democracy has been around a little over 200 years, whereas |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 03:31 PM Response to Reply #30 |
54. Yes, it's very easy to fall back. It's endemic to the species, I think. I've always felt |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 02:27 PM Response to Reply #8 |
35. A classic Marxist observation... |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
9. Are companies' profits down from using cheap foreign labor? |
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EC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 02:09 PM Response to Reply #9 |
25. Yes |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-25-11 07:29 AM Response to Reply #25 |
79. This response does not constitute any proof. |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 02:25 PM Response to Reply #9 |
33. Yes. Wal-Mart's down for the last 7 quarters in a row (nt) |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-25-11 07:28 AM Response to Reply #33 |
78. Walmart is global: |
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Newest Reality (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
11. We have some glaring |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
12. I think ultimately it is so that there will be less of us to deal with when |
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Bozita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
13. Every dollar in the hands of poor folk is a dollar they don't have |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
14. Because it's about controlling wealth, not money |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 02:04 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. +1 |
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guitar man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
15. It's what 3rd world countries do |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 02:23 PM Response to Reply #15 |
32. until the masses are tired of being oppressed then all hell |
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Cal33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 02:27 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Right you are. And this has happened over, and over , and over |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
16. We poor people certainly haven't seen any outcry by the muddleclass against these outrages. |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 02:07 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. you expect something from people you insult? "muddleclass"? seriously? |
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Zephie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
17. No. They don't need us as anything other than cogs in the machine that produce their goods |
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EC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
18. They don't believe in the demand side of economics |
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arbusto_baboso (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 02:04 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. And that's why our economy is in the shitter. Even Henry Ford knew... |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 02:49 PM Response to Reply #21 |
37. Henry Ford knew that if he did not pay his workers enough they would not stay and do dull repetitive |
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arbusto_baboso (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 02:52 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Well, there's that, too. But it's really a very basic premise. |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 02:57 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. I never argue against increasing wealth and security for WORKING PEOPLE. |
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HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 03:27 PM Response to Reply #21 |
53. He was also, somehow, very well-to-do . . . |
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jotsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
19. I don't believe so, no. |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
22. I've been asking that same question. |
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ProfessionalLeftist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
24. This is part of it... |
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ladywnch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
27. because people in this condition are easier to CONTROL. n/t |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
28. When your that rich, money is nothing but a way of keeping track of how awesome you are. |
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ehrnst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
29. Slaves will work for housing and food. They want a plantation class system. (nt) |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
31. For the RW it's a worldview thing. Calvinist Xianity is all about the punishment of the wicked |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 03:56 PM Response to Reply #31 |
61. Exactly, well said! n/t |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 04:10 PM Response to Reply #31 |
64. They never stop to think that *they* might be the wicked. n/t |
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CrownPrinceBandar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
42. Capital is a finite resource.......... |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 03:12 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. +1 |
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southernyankeebelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
45. They want you to fucking die. Don't you get it. We are taking up their space. We |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 03:16 PM Response to Reply #45 |
51. Useless eaters. THEIR words.......... |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
48. Because we would be easier to use/abuse. |
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barbiegeek (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
58. Then we are easier to control-- |
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chillspike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
66. They will just leave the country |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-11 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
71. No, they project the growth of the human population will outstrip |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-25-11 08:19 AM Response to Original message |
81. They are counting on consumers in 'emerging markets' |
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Crop Circle (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-25-11 08:29 AM Response to Original message |
82. Perhaps to "Decrease the Surplus Population"? |
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dotymed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-25-11 09:08 AM Response to Reply #82 |
86. I have asked that same question, |
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Crop Circle (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-25-11 09:42 AM Response to Reply #86 |
89. Here's a link to an archived story about this topic |
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reformist2 (998 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-25-11 08:37 AM Response to Original message |
83. Maybe they've all been brainwashed by Ayn Rand? |
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snappyturtle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-25-11 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
84. To control us! We'll be so busy scrabbling to stay alive TPTB will |
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deutsey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-25-11 08:50 AM Response to Original message |
85. It goes back to the beginning of civilization |
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11 Bravo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-25-11 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
87. So there will be more money, medical care, food, and real estate for them to control. |
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leeroysphitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-25-11 09:31 AM Response to Original message |
88. There is a reason why those who already rich have begun accumulating and hoarding the nation's |
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