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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 06:48 PM
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From a public employee,
MD deputy sheriff (may be my future son-in-law)

'I am a public employee. I am not the problem. Teachers, police officers, paramedics, firefighters, road workers etc. are NOT the enemy. If you’re jealous of our benefits, FIGHT FOR YOUR OWN!, not against ours. The rich created this crisis and are pitting middle class families against each other. We live here, pay taxes, work hard & try to support our families too.'

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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 06:50 PM
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1. Me too!

AFSCME member. Ne is trying to kill my union also.

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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 06:50 PM
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2. With all due respect, "FIGHT FOR YOUR OWN" is very antagonistic
There has to be a better way to make the point
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 07:28 PM
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10. As a teacher in Wisconsin
do you know how many times I have been told that I am overpaid and that the benefits I receive are outrageous and that I need to suck it up because the person I'm talking to doesn't have those benefits? THAT gets very antagonistic very fast. I understand where the reaction comes from.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 09:29 PM
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16. I just meant it's not a good path to go down
It opens the door to "how many teachers stood with ...insert private... workers?"

It's divisive and a rw tactic
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 07:30 PM
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12. I agree
It implies that other workers could indeed fight for their own. Police, firefighters, and teachers don't have to deal with having their jobs outsourced to the Third World.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 07:31 PM
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13. +1
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 06:52 PM
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3. Its essayer to drag others down to their level
then pull themselves up to your level.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 06:59 PM
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4. There was an annoying article in today's paper
(the Minneapolis Star Tribune) about the money "taxpayers" pay for public employees' pensions and health insurance. Has it ever occurred to anybody that public employees are also taxpayers, and that therefore they are contributing to their own benefits through *their* taxes? The article made it sound like these benefits were some kind of undeserved welfare scheme that was being extorted from "the taxpayers" (evidently not including taxpaying public employees) instead of bargained-for deferred compensation that is usually offered in lieu of higher direct wages. Really pissed me off.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 07:11 PM
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5. It's probably occurred to the instigators, but
not people in the street who just respond to rw propaganda.

Also, of course had the employers (states, cities, etc) over the years done their share in contributing to the funds and investing in sound vehicles, none of this could be an issue.
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City of Mills Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 07:16 PM
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6. I tell people that all the time
I don't get a free ride, I pay quite a bit into the pension system, and I pay a health insurance premium. AND I'm a taxpayer. If anything, I should be exempt from having to pay a portion of my own salary, don't you think? And I would never even make that argument because I'm NOT some moneygrubbing, greedy a-hole.

I'm appreciative of the security my job provides, even though I make substantially less than I would in the private sector. In fact, I do supplement my income by working for myself on the side, and my consultant rate is more than double (nearly triple) what I earn from my 'day' job.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 07:18 PM
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7. oh yeah
they love to spread that meme about the taxpayers. well, i'm a taxpayer too!!
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 07:20 PM
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8. I can just hear the billionaires thinking, "Too bad we can't offshore those jobs!"
The 30-year war on working class people has taken a large toll.
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a kennedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 07:21 PM
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9. D*mn right fight for your own......
:patriot:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 07:29 PM
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11. Exactly; I'm an ex-public employee hoping to be a future one as a paralegal.
Thanks, elleng!
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 07:42 PM
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14. YVW, blonde.
I'm a very fortunate retired former Federal employee, benefitting from 'old' Fed pension program.
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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 09:00 PM
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15. 9.75% of my gross goes to my pension

Next year is 10.25 I believe. That is no free ride.



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