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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 02:16 PM
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Since it's so effective, how do we get the wealthy to turn on each other?
I think if we figure out how to do that, we might eventually have the playing field leveled.

Logically it makes no sense for the working class to turn on itself, but we see how easily that is accomplished.

So how do we get the same to happen to the elites? What would cause them to turn on each other?

:shrug:

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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 02:18 PM
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1. All you got to do is make them think the other guy
wants to take away their money.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 02:18 PM
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2. We don't have to. We are the majority.
We can make them behave, if we get our shit together and elect candidates who truly support Democratic principles (and get rid of any DINOs).
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 02:19 PM
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3. Whisper campaign - "He's got more than you do"
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 02:21 PM
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5. "and it looks better on him"
The actual amount is nothing more than a status marker to these guys... All is Vanity
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 02:24 PM
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6. It really has nothing to do with the value - just who has the most. HOWEVER...
YOU CAN'T TAKE IT WITH YOU, FUCKWADS!

Although it would be sweet if they COULD take it with them so Satan could make them sit naked on hot coals and watch while he burns every last fucking dollar in front of them.

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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 02:20 PM
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4. We just need to shut down M$M and the rest of US will wake up
The problem here is the rhetoric that fuels the teabaggers and their support of the policies that make the rich richer.

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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 02:26 PM
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7. Good Rich, Bad Rich
The majority of rich folks are decent people that donate and spend a lot of money on good causes. Those few greedy pricks are making them look bad.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 02:29 PM
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8. In that case the good ones had better start allocating resources ...
...to make the bad ones stop making them look bad.

Do they really want to be on the wrong side in a revisit to the end of Renaissance France?

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MedleyMisty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 02:40 PM
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11. I believe that's called "false generosity"
Edited on Sun Feb-27-11 02:42 PM by MedleyMisty
Donating to help yourself feel better about the social ills that your accumulation of wealth created. Because actually changing the social structure so everyone had enough would mean that you might lose some of your precious material shit and ability to feel like you're worth more than other human beings because you have more things.
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 03:03 PM
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13. they *could* pay a living wage w/decent benefits
for one thing, stuff like that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDggbhjEdHk
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 02:32 PM
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9. Start taxing them at 90%.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 02:33 PM
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10. that won't help us, only us sticking together will
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 02:52 PM
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12. Not exactly what you're looking for, but I read a book proposing that
Edited on Sun Feb-27-11 02:53 PM by hedgehog
social change happens not when enough people feel something is the proper thing to do, but when people are ashamed or embarrassed about doing the wrong thing. I can't ind the book title, but the examples include the end of foot binding in China - it persisted despite various attempts to ban it, but when the Chinese upper classes felt that foot binding made China look backward, the practice stopped.

I'm thinking that non-violence succeeds when the target group is shamed into doing the right thing.

So, my goal would be to shame the Koch brothers, for a start.
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