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highplainsdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-11 11:49 AM Original message |
Framing the debate: Democrats need to start using the word "plutocracy" regularly |
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yourout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-11 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
1. The problem is half the US population think Plutocracy has something to do with astronomy. |
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highplainsdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-11 12:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I seriously doubt that. And it's fairly easy to explain what plutocracy is and why it's a threat |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-11 12:26 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. And the other half thinks it's about that dog at.......... |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-11 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
3. plutocrat is an obsolete word with no meaning for most Americans - better synonyms might be |
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ananda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-11 12:20 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Kleptocracy |
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highplainsdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-11 12:23 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Those synonyms lack the political connotations of "plutocrat." |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-11 12:30 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. I don't think so. I grew up in a REAL working class.......... |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 11:49 AM Response to Reply #5 |
24. How about "kakistocrat" |
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highplainsdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-11 12:26 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. And btw, the fact the term isn't used enough now is symptomatic of the problem, the failure to frame |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-11 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
9. Good post - Spread this document |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-11 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
10. Is that bipartisan? What is the pay off for politicians? |
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highplainsdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-11 09:19 PM Response to Original message |
11. kick |
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-11 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
12. Exactly |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
13. They'd have to explain it every time they used it. Cable hosts would cut them off |
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highplainsdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 11:04 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. I know I've heard it before, and I've never heard anyone try to give a lengthy explanation which |
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highplainsdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 11:05 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. And btw, the solution to people being unfamiliar with an accurate term is to USE it. |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
14. No, they need to start using the words "spoiled brats" regularly |
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highplainsdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 11:10 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. I think you're underestimating the average person. And while the kind of name-calling you suggest |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 11:35 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Frankly, I'm sorry, but I disagree |
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highplainsdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 11:42 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. What you said about how "liberal" has become a pejorative to many people just shows how usage and |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 12:35 PM Response to Reply #20 |
31. OK, that's great - 20 years from now. |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
17. But their plutocrat bosses wouldn't like it. |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 11:43 AM Response to Reply #17 |
21. You seem to forget that 99.9% of Koch and Chamber Money goes to Republicans |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 02:06 PM Response to Reply #21 |
35. I don't think that's true. |
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highplainsdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
22. Kevin Drum in Mother Jones last month: "Plutocracy Now: What Wisconsin Is Really About" |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
23. K&R, it's the people vs the hoarders. |
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highplainsdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
25. Robert Reich: "We're losing our democracy to a different system. It's called plutocracy." |
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highplainsdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
26. Paul Krugman: "Prices and Plutocrats" |
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highplainsdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
27. Paul Krugman: "Punks and Plutocrats" |
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highplainsdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
28. Felix Salmon, Reuters: "How to deal with the plutocrats" |
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highplainsdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
29. Marshall Whitfield for Buzzflash at Truthout: "Sleepwalking Toward Plutocracy" |
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highplainsdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
30. John Atcheson, CommonDreams: "The Plutocrat's Coup d'Etat, Their Republican Allies and Their |
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highplainsdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
32. Jim Hightower: "We can have a plutocracy, or a democracy. But not both." |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
33. call it "rule by the rich" and I agree--I can't spend half my time explaining the P word |
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highplainsdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 01:59 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. IF someone doesn't already know what plutocracy is, it takes just seconds to explain it. |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
36. Too many syllables ... how about ROBBER BARONS? |
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