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Lefta Dissenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 09:37 AM
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My Response to "Sorry Wisconsin" on Conservative blog
I try not to read, let alone respond to the conservative blogs. But for some reason, I just had to write to this woman's blog about my state. I could have written for days, because there is so much to respond to, but I just expressed what first came to mind when I read her entry and some of the responses. Of course, my entry is still "awaiting moderation" and may be waiting for a long, long time, so I thought I'd share it with my fellow DUers.

The blog is TX Trendy Chick, and her entry is titled, "Sorry Wisconsin."

http://www.txtrendychick.com/2011/03/sorry-wisconsin/#comment-224

"You know, I feel for the protestors in Wisconsin. No, I really do! I remember quite vividly how I felt watching C-SPAN the night of March 21, 2010 as Obamacare was passed. I felt defeated and physically pained watching my country take that kind of turn, one I fought so hard against. I sat in my living room and cried.

"But the sun rose the next day, I was still breathing, and life went on. The world kept turning despite the government defying the will of the people. Last night those protestors who had fought for weeks to save the majority of their collective bargaining rights lost their fight. And the earth continues to orbit the sun, hearts still beat, and birds still chirp.

"Like I said, I know how those protestors feel and I’m sorry they’ve had to experienced that kind of defeat.
(Note: I’m not sorry they lost, just sorry they’re upset.)

...more...


Here's my response:

Yes, you survived the passage of health care reform. You know why? Because Health Care Reform actually HELPS people. Also, it was passed after months and months of debate and legal votes. So even though you don't agree with the concept of ensuring that more Americans are able to have access to health care, you DID wake up in the morning... as did some babies who will not be denied coverage because of preexisting conditions, and college students who have the choice of paying premiums and remaining on their parents' health insurance policy a year longer. Whew, we all survived, and, lo and behold, there were no death panels!

However, we wake up this morning in Wisconsin, knowing that Walker can sell our power plants to the Koch brothers with NO BID! How can that be fiscally responsible? We woke up knowing that funding to schools is being cut dramatically, as is the schools' ability to collect any more revenues to cover that shortfall, so teachers will HAVE to be fired, and kids will have to be educated in larger class sizes, and with reduced access to computers, books, science equipment and art supplies. We woke up this morning knowing that we will be losing even MORE federal funding than the hundreds of millions that Walker has already turned away. We woke up this morning knowing that access to health care will actually be taken away from some of the poor, so, you know what? Some of them might NOT wake up TOMORROW morning. And we woke up this morning knowing that even though the republicans had the votes in the Assembly to pass the bill, they STILL, in their arrogance, broke and law and legislative rules, in order to ram this through. They didn't have to do that - they could have just been a little patient and tolerant - they could have listened to the discussion - they could have even PRETENDED to listen. But they didn't like hearing from people who disagreed with them, both inside and outside the chamber, and they certainly didn't want to be late for their little fundraising party in DC, so they dropped all pretense of respect for the people of the state and for the laws that govern our state, and they announced their dictates.

If our 14 Senators hadn't left the state to slow the process down, this bill would have been pushed through in 2 days. Nobody would have had a clue as to what is in it until after it was signed into law. Even some of the Republicans admitted that they didn't know what was in the bill they voted for! I can't thank our State Senators enough for being willing to be away from their families and homes, and suffer through the nastiness heaped upon them by the republican leadership, in order to provide an opportunity for people to READ the bill, debate its strengths and weaknesses, and learn about the impact that it will have on the lives of Wisconsinites. Even the conservative polls are showing that the people of the State of Wisconsin were overwhelmingly against passing this bill in the way it was written. After all, what was just passed "didn't have a fiscal element," right? Otherwise they couldn't have voted on it while the 14 Dem Senators were still out of state. So if it doesn't have a fiscal element, how does it balance our budget? It gets a bit confusing when the people who wrote and support the bill can't even give a consistent story on what is in it or what its impact will be.

But one thing we can say for Republicans, they're obedient! No matter what their differences, take them into a closed caucus, and they all come out in agreement. Well, I don't want a submissive, obedient robot representing me, I'll stick with the men and women who think rationally, who have compassion and empathy, and who will stand up and fight for me, even when they know they're being rolled over by the Corporate-funded Koch machine that is crushing the working class of our state.

So there you have it, from a self-employed lifelong Wisconsinite to a Texan with a Coco Chanel quote featured on her blog. You cared enough to express your opinion from over 1,000 miles away about what is happening in my state. I hope you'll share the viewpoint of someone who IS waking up feeling the pain of knowing that my life, the environment of my state, and the lives of many, many middle and lower class Wisconsinites could be damaged beyond repair.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 09:41 AM
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1. Super Smack Down with Class and Facts.
I enjoyed reading this - excellent.

:yourock: Lefta Dissenter
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flpab Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:12 AM
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8. Coco was a Nazi, does she know this?
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Lefta Dissenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:28 AM
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10. Huh
Edited on Fri Mar-11-11 10:30 AM by Lefta Dissenter
Maybe she doesn't know, or maybe that's one of the reasons she admires her!

But I sure as hell didn't know. Thanks for the link, sad as it is.

It's so wonderful to learn every day of our lives. Even though some of what we're learning is sad and painful, that is far outweighed by the gift of being able to broaden our thinking and our reasoning, sometimes even stumbling across juicy and fun little tidbits that simply tickle and amuse.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:35 AM
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17. I didn't know that... interesting bits of triva.
Don't know if it's true but, read somewhere that Julia Child was a spy. :shrug:

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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:39 AM
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20. Fascinating article.
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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 09:41 AM
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2. K&R....Great Response
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 09:49 AM
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3. That was more thoughful than Trendy Chick deserved.
Well done.
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bluetex Donating Member (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 09:55 AM
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4.  Need clafification...
"We woke up knowing that funding to schools is being cut dramatically, as is the schools' ability to collect any more revenues"



Does Wisconsin law deny local public school systems the right to raise property taxes in order to make up the difference(s)?

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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:01 AM
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6. That's actually one of the provisions of what they pushed through...
...just the sort of "big governnment intruding on local affairs" that Republicans pretend to be against.
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boomerbust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:05 AM
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7. Yes
That is part of the Budget Repair Bill
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DonCoquixote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:00 AM
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5. k and r
off to the greatest
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:25 AM
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9. One of the best posts I've read in a long time. k&r nt
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ChoppinBroccoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:30 AM
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11. The Only Thing You Left Out.............
This chick, and many right-wing mouth-breathers like her, insist that Heath Care Reform was passed despite it not being "the will of the people." That's not true at all. Most Americans SUPPORTED Health Care Reform, and a HUGE percentage think the reform bill didn't go far enough.

Now compare that to the fact that the Wisconsin Republicans passed this P.O.S. bill despite the fact that 77% of the people oppose it.

You know, when a small minority controlled the majority in South Africa, they called it Apartheid.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:31 AM
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13. Very good point.
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Lefta Dissenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:37 AM
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18. there's a lot I left out
I figured I had to stop at some point, in part because I thought that the odds of her actually approving the post were pretty minimal, and can only spend just so much time writing for my own amusement.

At least I thought to copy it here for a more appreciative audience!


Thanks DU! :)
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:31 AM
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12. Fabulous, simply fabulous!
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:34 AM
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14. Terrific response!
You said it perfectly. :patriot:
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HighLowRoller87 Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:35 AM
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15. Yup your right it will be in "awaiting moderation" for a VERY long time because it's that good!
They can't handle the truth.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:35 AM
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16. K&R! Excellent! nt
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:38 AM
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19. Dig the last paragraph.
Texans hate it when someone from outside the state dares to suggest anything inside the state. Yet here's a cat who's happy to meddle in the affairs of Wisconsin.

Awesome.
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 11:14 AM
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21. Nice.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 11:23 AM
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22. I've seen her posts in the wiunion threads on twitter. She's an idiot.
The sort of block headed, full of herself idiot that you are not going to affect in any way with facts and reason.
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Lefta Dissenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 11:55 AM
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24. #wiunion
I think that's where I clicked the link. I needed an outlet for my thoughts, and hey, to her credit, the post was actually approved! - too bad I didn't catch all my typos before posting! :D
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 11:24 AM
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23. self delete.
Edited on Fri Mar-11-11 11:25 AM by Matariki
gratuitous insults toward that blogger you address.
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 02:12 PM
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25. Excellent. Thank you.
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alterfurz Donating Member (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:37 PM
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26. what Scuba said!
playing now at the Orpheum in Madison:
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callous taoboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:52 PM
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27. Do you want to know what TX trendy Chick's message reminded me of?
It reminded me of that little old white speck on the top of chicken doo doo.
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Lefta Dissenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:12 PM
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28. HA
my daughter, who has a couple of chickens and a duck, loved that comparison! :D

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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:35 PM
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29. Wonderful! Anger creates excellent writing; I felt your anger!
The rightwing comments were just oozing with the same, tired talking points fed to the sheeple. If they only knew they were being used as peasant soldiers by the billionaires pulling the strings. There will come a day when their own rights are plundered & savaged; then they'll have their "what have I done" day of reckoning.

Good job! It was a little over their heads, but those of us with common sense get it. :hi:
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