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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 05:11 PM Original message |
They can no longer cool the spent fuel storage pool at #3 |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
1. post a link if/when you can |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 05:15 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Its from NHK on Japan TV |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 06:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
40. ... |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-19-11 01:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
78. According to Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano who says the situation at the Fukushima |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
2. Omg. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 06:26 PM Response to Reply #2 |
42. ... |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
3. source? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 05:16 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. nhk english here |
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cui bono (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 05:55 PM Response to Reply #5 |
28. I just went to your first link. They're giving a weather report like nothing is wrong. So weird. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 05:57 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. i'm also monitoring kyodo, bbc, reuters. so far nothing similar. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 06:00 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. now 8 am report |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 06:32 PM Response to Reply #30 |
45. They didn't say they were "abandoning spraying" |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 06:43 PM Response to Reply #45 |
52. "can no longer cool" is a statement that can be read in many ways. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 06:47 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. Only in the imagination of those trying to spin this for the indsutry... |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 06:52 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. unlike yourself, i don't allow my position on nuclear power -- which is, in fact, negative -- |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 06:53 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Don't you realize you've disproven that with your actions. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 06:55 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. ahokamae. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 06:56 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. kusotare obatarian |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-19-11 01:05 PM Response to Reply #56 |
77. There are those trying to spin in each direction. I am after what's actually happening. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 06:31 PM Response to Reply #3 |
44. it wasn't. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 06:35 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. You are spreading misinformation Hannah Bell |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 06:40 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. anyone can verify by listening to the 9 am report for themselves. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 06:42 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. And perhaps they decided to walk back from it -stop. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 06:44 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. i, unlike yourself, post links & let people judge for themselves. |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
6. They have NOT been able to cool the spent fuel storage pool at #3 since before the tsunami .... |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 05:25 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Not clear whether this is a new alert or status quo. The #3 reactor pool is particularly dangerous |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 05:27 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. It is new. It is not an alert. It is the 7AM news broaddcast from their public TV stn. |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 05:31 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Well, no matter what it is, NONE of the reactors & pools have had any cooling for a week now. n/t |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 05:33 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. No "new" coolant, but they're now boiled down, leaked (dry?). That's the difference. |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 05:38 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. But we already pretty much knew that some of the spent rod pools were damaged and dry. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 05:40 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Time has passed, efforts have failed, less water, it has gotten worse. |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 05:41 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. I don't know what the new news is. None of us do. That's a big part of the problem. |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 05:53 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. The rods ARE melting. That is where all the radiation has been coming from. n/t |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 06:12 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. No. As I understand it, the radiation and hydrogen is from melting cladding. The rods don't |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 09:17 PM Response to Reply #33 |
69. Correction: It appears that the melting point of Plutonium is less than its insulation: |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 11:21 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. (hands pulling hair, screaming) |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 05:26 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Yes, they've given up trying. |
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cui bono (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 05:53 PM Response to Reply #10 |
27. Designer of a sarcophagus? n/t |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 06:10 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Specifically for nuclear meltdowns. nt |
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ReturnoftheDjedi (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 05:33 PM Response to Reply #6 |
17. there's no water in the pool. they tried to refill it and failed. |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
7. Goodbye Planet. You were nice while you lasted. |
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yawnmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 05:26 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. omg. is the planet leaving? eom |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 05:43 PM Response to Reply #7 |
25. Hehe... I think you have that backwards. |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
8. Same situation in #4, probably worse, except #3 has the plutonium rods. |
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Pharaoh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 05:28 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Oh Boy! |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 05:31 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Get out that old Cold War party suit > |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 06:24 PM Response to Reply #8 |
41. at that point it might be smart to leave |
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ReturnoftheDjedi (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 06:45 PM Response to Reply #41 |
54. you could at least get to the other side of the Rockies |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 06:49 PM Response to Reply #41 |
58. If the rods start to vaporize, there will be a huge spike in detectable radiation. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
16. These posts arent worth much w/o out links. No offense but there is a lot of conflicting info. nm |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 05:34 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. It's the NHK live feed, but I think a lot gets jumbled in translation |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 05:35 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. There is a link at post #5 I'm watching live on Japan public TV via sat |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 05:39 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. nhk world here. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 06:16 PM Response to Reply #16 |
36. just heard the 8 am report. it did not confirm the implications of the op |
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Urban Prairie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
31. Can't they build a huge cooling pond completely surrounding and higher than the damned Reactor #3 |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 06:13 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. They have ready a concrete cap that is designed to contain meltdowns |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 06:14 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. You want to operate the giant earth movers and cranes? How do they get there? How many months for |
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Urban Prairie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 06:17 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Obviously it would take too many months |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 06:23 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. They'll entomb the site after it cools off. Question is, how long . . . months, years, eons? |
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ReturnoftheDjedi (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 06:46 PM Response to Reply #35 |
55. it took 9 months for Chernobyl's to be built. That was 1 reactor. |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
38. Japan may have screwed the world with their MOX plutonium fuel mix in No. 3 |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 06:29 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. I'm afraid the Japanese are well aware of what plutonium does to people. |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 06:34 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Thanks for that information about vaporized plutonium |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 06:42 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. There's a good summary at Wiki: |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 06:51 PM Response to Reply #50 |
59. I am going to end up highly educated about milliseverts and radiation |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 06:57 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. You too? |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 07:00 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. Hopefully, we will all live and learn from this. |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 08:03 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Seabrook, oh that brings back memories |
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localroger (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 06:40 PM Response to Reply #38 |
48. More like screwed themselves |
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ReturnoftheDjedi (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 06:48 PM Response to Reply #48 |
57. unless there is another explosion of some type. |
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localroger (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-19-11 09:14 AM Response to Reply #57 |
73. There is nothing at the plant capable of stratospheric injection |
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ReturnoftheDjedi (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-19-11 12:15 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. we'll see what happens if they can't cool things down. |
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Urban Prairie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 07:06 PM Response to Reply #48 |
66. If this mix in fact does melt down |
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localroger (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-19-11 09:16 AM Response to Reply #66 |
75. Not even close |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 07:32 PM Response to Reply #48 |
67. There are more than 42 million people within 200 miles of that plant. nt |
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localroger (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-19-11 09:15 AM Response to Reply #67 |
74. True, but that's not "the world." nt |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
70. Accurate translation of the broacast w/ japanese text |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
71. Kick |
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