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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:46 PM Original message |
So How are Moderates helping? |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
1. Changed OP subject heading. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
2. good questions. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 09:10 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Deleted message |
slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
4. knr nt |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 09:34 PM Response to Original message |
5. you don't quite get it. |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
6. but but... moderates are sensible and pragmatic while |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
7. They help the way they always do |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 10:07 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. +1. |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
9. Getting Dems the WH and Senate for a start |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 10:31 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. "Getting the WH" is meaningless without maintaining principles. nt |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:08 AM Response to Reply #10 |
49. We had Dems in the Senate and White House from the beginning of 2009 |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 10:33 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. So, who cares? |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 10:36 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. If the results they yield represent a material difference from the GOP, then yes |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 10:38 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Following one-half step to the center of far-right politicians as they dash to the right... |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 10:40 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Then get progressives elected. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 10:41 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. It would be easier without go-along to get-along mods undermining the message. nt |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:10 AM Response to Reply #19 |
50. And the MSM that either ignore or ridicule progressives |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 10:50 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Fuck the generalities. Let's talk specifics. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 10:53 PM Response to Reply #21 |
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Change has come (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 11:05 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Please edit the spelling error in your last sentence. n/t |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 01:20 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Sorry, I went out and missed the chance. |
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Change has come (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 01:31 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. bigger picture... |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 01:39 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. If I recall... I said "option 4 is..." |
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Change has come (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 01:53 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. bingo. |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 10:54 PM Response to Reply #14 |
23. Well, they're not. |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 07:51 AM Response to Reply #14 |
38. We had a mechanism to act on them for Obama's first two years |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 05:42 AM Response to Reply #9 |
33. I'm sorry but we already had that not long ago. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 07:45 AM Response to Reply #9 |
36. So you are saying that if the Democrats were more liberal |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
12. Complaining on the internet isn't hard-pushing |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 10:35 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. But witholding votes for those who do not support Democratic values is. |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 10:39 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. You didn't even read my post. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 10:40 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. No you didn't. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 07:52 AM Response to Reply #12 |
39. Dennis and Bernie get support, not 'feet to the fire' because they |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
20. Moderates should be outraged and threatening to withdraw all support if stabbed in the back again. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 10:57 PM Response to Original message |
24. Moderates help? |
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center rising (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 11:56 PM Response to Original message |
26. Moderates and centrists decide elections |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:04 AM Response to Reply #26 |
47. Like 2010? |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 12:00 AM Response to Original message |
27. Because a lot of them think the far left are a bunch of crazy loonies |
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Keith Bee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 01:22 AM Response to Original message |
29. K&R |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 05:46 AM Response to Original message |
34. What's a moderate? |
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stillwaiting (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 06:42 AM Response to Original message |
35. They are helping ensure right wing legislation is what gets passed and implemented. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 07:49 AM Response to Original message |
37. Way recommended. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 07:58 AM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Hey, maybe you could address how today's 'moderates' used |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 08:05 AM Response to Reply #37 |
42. I'm pleased to hear that H2O Man. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
41. I notice they do not exactly rush to define their contributions to the |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 08:08 AM Response to Original message |
43. If all the moderate hear from the left and the right is ... "Obama bad" ... they stay home. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 08:17 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Huh? |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:02 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. The middle stayed home, not the left. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:18 AM Response to Reply #46 |
51. The new voters in 2008 looking for change stayed home in 2010. |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 10:01 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Most of the new voters also are not people who followed politics closely. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:07 AM Response to Reply #43 |
48. Don't know about PA, but here in Oregon, we criticize who we |
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leeroysphitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 08:20 AM Response to Original message |
45. It"s more important to appear centrist than to defend good policy. n/t |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
52. recommend |
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crickets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
54. Excellent OP, Bonobo. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 06:47 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. I still have not seen any credible answers to the main question I asked. |
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