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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 08:37 PM Original message |
Honest question. How can a Democrat be a Libertarian? |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
1. "Libertarian" is a very broad label. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 01:15 PM Response to Reply #1 |
45. Thanks for the link. I was not aware of that distinction. I admire Noam Chomsky. nm |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 02:07 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. IMO the notion that the Left is necessarily "pro-state" is a myth that must be dispelled if... |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 02:47 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. So the TeaBaggers are not wrong when they say dont trust the government. |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 08:42 PM Response to Reply #48 |
55. There aren't any teabaggers |
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madinmaryland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
2. Well, there are the pro-smoking folks and the pro-gun folks. nt |
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Pancho Sanza (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
3. I don't understand how a real Democrat can NOT be a libertarian |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 09:55 PM Response to Reply #3 |
19. Because we want to help the poor rather than tell them to fend for themselves? |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 09:40 AM Response to Reply #19 |
39. I agree Winky. nm |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 10:35 PM Response to Reply #3 |
27. Libertarians.. |
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The Velveteen Ocelot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
4. Depends on how you define "libertarian." |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 09:42 AM Response to Reply #4 |
40. I agree but I run into economic libertarians in DU. nm |
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w8liftinglady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
5. some may consider themselves "Civil Libertarians" |
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Brilliantrocket (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 08:52 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. How can anyone support the war on drugs? |
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w8liftinglady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 09:00 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. II'm just surprised they haven't figured out how to get rich from it |
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roamer65 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 09:17 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Marijuana, absolute legalization...yes. Harder substances...highly controlled medical supervision. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 09:57 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. Are you kidding? Why do you think corporations are IN the Middle East/Afhanistan/Pakistan? |
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w8liftinglady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 09:58 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. lol...I should have clarified...HERE! |
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area51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 03:28 AM Response to Reply #13 |
35. Is he a member of LEAP? |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 09:43 AM Response to Reply #13 |
41. They are getting rich. Cheney owns prisons. nm |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
6. There is the Libertarian philosophy and there is the Libertarian Party. |
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WingDinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
7. I am an EX libertarian. It speaks to adolescents. Then you get a brain, moran. |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
8. By your definition, or by a realistic definition? nt. |
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RandomThoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
10. It depends what you think a libertarian is. |
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Dark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
11. The same way anyone else can. They agree w/ dems on enough of the policies that they vote for them |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 09:00 PM Response to Original message |
12. Maybe because they aren't Democrats? |
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roamer65 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
14. Because there are left-wing libertarians, just as there are right-wing ones. |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 10:07 PM Response to Reply #14 |
24. You know? |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
15. You have paranoid and selfish people confused with people that think |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 02:59 PM Response to Reply #15 |
49. Thanks for the thoughts. nm |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
16. Because politics isn't a one-dimensional affair, even if there are only two parties. |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
17. These days, a Democrat can be a Republican, so why not? |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 09:57 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Heh! |
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craigmatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
23. The only way is to solely focus on the social issues part of libertarianism. |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 10:14 PM Response to Original message |
25. Not as hard as it looks |
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Puregonzo1188 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
26. Well, for starters the Democratic Party is a political party, not a political philosophy. |
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w8liftinglady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 12:58 AM Response to Reply #26 |
33. many of the Libertarians I know hate the way the fiscal Repub party has been hijacked |
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Puregonzo1188 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 01:37 PM Response to Reply #33 |
46. I feel like a lot of the Christian Conservative types have hijacked the word libertarian. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 06:35 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Would Ayn Rand and/or Allen Greenspan be considered Libertarians? nm |
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affrayer (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
28. I Agree... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 10:56 PM Response to Original message |
29. Libertarians range from very well of center to very right of center |
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MicaelS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
30. Easy if they are Left-Libertarians... |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 11:47 PM Response to Original message |
31. Would you consider "your body, your choice" to be a libertarian position? (nt) |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 12:55 AM Response to Original message |
32. How can a Democrat be a Libertarian?"... |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 12:59 AM Response to Original message |
34. I'm stumped, because every Libertarian I've met is a selfish douchebag. |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 11:18 AM Response to Reply #34 |
44. You met the conservative variety. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 05:18 AM Response to Original message |
36. People confuse "libertarianism" the many-faceted philosophy with the big-L Libertarian Party for one |
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Hugabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 05:30 AM Response to Original message |
37. Same reason that Joe Lieberman called himself a Democrat |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 10:59 AM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Thanks for the explanation. So John Stossel is the latter. nm |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 05:55 AM Response to Original message |
38. Seems to me that libertarian trends among Dems are mainly on social issues n/t |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
43. like most of us do not want church to dictate our rules, we dont want mommy to dictate our rules |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
51. A Civil Libertarian tends to believe that one of government's principle roles is |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
52. Also, let me tell ya, there are many economic libertarians or deep sympathizers in the tent |
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Still a Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
53. Libertarians are liberal on social issues and foreign affairs, but conservative on economics |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 09:06 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Is supporting unemployment benefits or raising the min wage, social or economic issues??? nm |
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Still a Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 09:20 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Economic |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 11:24 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. I disagree. I say both are social issues. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 08:38 PM Response to Original message |
54. To a point, Its not so hard if you support civil liberties. |
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