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Shaktimaan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 01:22 AM
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34. you are totally wrong here.
The kind of hateful rhetoric we're discussing here is widespread throughout the Palestinian and mideastern Muslim leadership in general. In Israel, as in America, it is generally relegated to a fringe movement. Your examples of support doesn't necessarily mean much. Of course Yaakov Katz was outraged... Lior threw his support behind National Union. This is just politics. Unfortunately, Lior has an outspoken and influential-for-its-size political movement behind him. This is obviously very scary and deserves a lot of investigation and criticism. But trying to compare it to the level of anti-semitic rhetoric that routinely comprises Palestinian politics takes quite an imagination.

For example... this whole stink was raised because the police detained him. When was the last Palestinian leader to get detained and questioned for inciting violence? In the late 1980s the Attorney General barred Lior’s election to the Supreme Rabbinical Council following a public outcry over his remarks that captured Arab terrorists could be used in medical experiments. Can you cite something similar happening in Palestinian government? Both opposition leader Tzipi Livni and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu called for a full judicial investigation of Lior's remarks and said that rabbis were not above the law. Again, can you show us this happening in Palestine?

But the reality is that US and British leaders and in the case of the UK, the leaders of their official religion, do not in any way endorse the extremists you mention

Really? Louisiana actually elected David Duke to the US Senate! One of the frontrunners for the GOP presidential race swore that he would never hire a Muslim as a cabinet member because he thinks they are trying to institute Sharia Law. Don't make me quote Bachmann.

I posted examples of the support the Israeli govt as well as the Chief Rabbi give to the ugliest and most disgusting people like Dov Lior. I do like how it's apparently only an issue when it comes to Muslims, and when it's any other religious leader supported by the state, they get downgraded to 'mumblings of a whacko leader'.

You posted politicians voicing their disapproval of an arrest, not support of his views. Big dif. vminfla posted quotes from many politicians saying the same thing. You posted ONE guy making racist statements and no politician's quotes supporting his philosophy.

Additionally, very few examples of Jewish terrorism against Palestinians occur in relation to the opposite. How can you even compare the two? Where are all the Baruch Goldsteins if Lior is inciting so many people?
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