Reply #100: As I didn't say that, I guess yr now inventing yr own arguments again...

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I also didn't say anything about having a problem or not with the ISM. What I said was very clear so I'll repeat it again and bold the part you appear to have totally ignored in favour of going off on a tangent: 'It's disturbing that you equate the ISM with a creature like Lior. I take it you've not noticed the threads in this forum about him and are unaware of his views? I can fill you in on them if you continue to make such absurd comparisons.'

Clearly you must be unaware of his views, as you continue to defend those who call him an influential and one of Israel's greatest rabbis, and continue to think that the ISM is on a par with a man who calls Arabs 'evil camel riders', who legitimised the murder of non-Jews during war, amongst other things. Here's a thread where he says that gentile sperm leads to barbaric offspring. I notice you didn't appear in this thread so you must have missed all this stuff about Lior...

'Gentile sperm leads to barbaric offspring'

Rabbi Dov Lior, a senior authority on Jewish law in the Religious Zionism movement, asserted recently that a Jewish woman should never get pregnant using sperm donated by a non-Jewish man – even if it is the last option available

According to Lior, a baby born through such an insemination will have the "negative genetic traits that characterize non-Jews." Instead, he advised sterile couples to adopt.

Lior addressed the issue during a women's health conference held recently at the Puah Institute, a fertility clinic. His conservative stance negated a ruling widely accepted by rabbis, which states that sperm donated by a non-Jew is preferable to that of an anonymous Jew, who might pose a genealogical risk.

"Sefer HaChinuch (a book of Jewish law) states that the character traits of the father pass on to the son," he said in the lecture. "If the father in not Jewish, what character traits could he have? Traits of cruelty, of barbarism! These are not traits that characterize the people of Israel."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=124&topic_id=341655

You ask: 'Where do I demonize Palestinians?' and proceed in the same line to give an excellent example of doing it where you compare Palestinian society to the Nazis. That's every bit as ugly and bigoted as someone comparing Israeli society to the Nazis and then showing an amazing ignorance of what a society is by tacking on 'I'm talking about the leadership!!!!!'. When you talk about society, yr talking about an entire group of people. Knowing how fond you are of definitions that come from The Dictionary, you might want to go look it up. Then after that, you might want to educate yrself about Palestinian society, something which you clearly have no knowledge or understanding of. There's some books out there you can start with if you can tear yrself away from the sort of sites that equate Palestinians to Nazis, and here's a few to get you started. I strongly suspect you won't be interested, but others reading may be, so this is for them...

Mountain Against The Sea: Essays On Palestinian Society And Culture


The Palestinian People - Baruch Kimmerling & Joel S Migdal (I can strongly recommend this one as I own a copy)

We Shall Return: Women of Palestine (This one talks to Palestinian women in Lebanese refugee camps and gives a really good look at the society they live in. As with the first two books, there's no whiff of a Nazi society, because it just doesn't exist)

As for that last bit, why do you randomly drop the same 'argument' into different threads? I've already dealt with that in another thread by referring you to the initial 'exchange' about it, rather than getting into some repeat the same thing over and over game. So, here it is again...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=124&topic_id=364924&mesg_id=367334