Reply #15: Yes and the first person who says Vietnam should be sent tomorrow

[grantcart]

There is a strange logic that has overtaken a lot of thinking people.

Vietnam was an insurgency.

The US ally was overtaken by an insurgency.

The US cannot defeat insurgencies.


Some insurgencies reflect a national liberation movement of a historically distinct people seeking nationhood and independence.


Some insurgencies are evil.


How ironic it is that the People's Republic of Vietnam eventually tires of its neighbor insurgent, the Khmer Republic and invades Cambodia and defeats that evil insurgency.

Thailand defeated an insurgency.

Malaysia defeated an insurgency.

Indonesia defeated an insurgency.

Cambodia was overtaken by an insurgency and then was liberated by a country that was unified by an insurgency.


Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia and Cambodia all defeated their insurgencies with completely different methodologies. Thailand did it eventually without firing a shot. Malaysia developed a killer method where special forces would track down insurgents even if it took them on month long treks into the jungles. Indonesia used duplicity and Cambodia was liberated of its communist psychotic killers by communists from Vietnam who then handed the country over to the capitalists to take over. (They couldn't stay - they had to repel an invasion from China.)


There is a successful solution. It is an Afghan solution. We can help. We can equip. As you say it may require 60,000 troops initially. It may require 0 troops initially.

In the end it must require 0 NATO troops.

The one thing that is known for sure is that ultimately the Afghans have to do it themselves.


Before people say that we should abandon the Afghans to the Taliban then you should accept that the Taliban will use women as chatel and that they are not a national liberation movement but a movement against the idea of a national government, against the advance of civilization. They have used terror in the past and will use it in the future.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_-By4xFJwDYk/SKj45kpqjZI/AAAAAAAAACc/OzCpU2bJrLQ/S1600-R/women+in+burkhas.jpg







And if you don't think that the Taliban doesn't have the same mentality of the Khmer Rouge then go here, but only if you have a very strong stomach.

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/188003.php