Reply #1: This really stinks

[karynnj]

This was a case where Obama took a position that was timid compared to the rest of the world, while a major break from our position of the last several decades. From the beginning, Clinton and others spoke to the right of Obama - including the annoying memo to Republicans Senators that pulled away from the Obama position.

If this is true - and it seems to be, Clinton won out on this. It also appears that Obama is going to ask for 40,000 more soldiers for Afghanistan and in at least one report it is for the original mission. Together these are extremely disappointing. The fact that Clinton was pulling him right on each of those decisions means that, for all practical purposes, we did not have a better choice in the race once Kerry opted out - other than Obama still seems marginally better than Clinton.

Of the two disappointments, though the consequences of Afghanistan will likely be more, Honduras was more of a disappointment. There had we really stood with the world, a coup would have been called wrong by everyone and ended. Not creating a disaster in Afghanistan will be hard - this was much easier - and it seemed they traded it for expediency or, worse, they really believed it. If so, Kerry might be one of the few Americans who acted with any honor.