Reply #4: It is so obvious, and the solution so simple, that indeed anyone who is not angry by that....

[liberation]

... is not paying attention.

Thank you for expressing in a far better voice, the same thing which has been all too apparent to me for a while.

Capital is such an ethereal concept, so detached from the physical reality, that to me it looks like the first species to commit suicide by placebo.

When means become ends, just like capitalism has become, a degeneration into a feedback loop always follows. Capital came to the human scene as tool to assist asset/service exchange. Capital is an ethereal/abstract concept, something which has no physical (real) value/manifestation whatsoever. Indeed, other concepts like language for example, serve a similar purpose. Speaking a language helps members of a society exchange ideas and communicate. We do not pay interest on using language, or we do not have to pay a fee to speak in a foreign language either (I am not talking about the cost of learning the language to begin with, but the actual usage of language as a tool).

But capital is interesting, because it is a recent invention. But unlike previous evolutionary aspects of humanity... those who created it have always attempted to control it, and use to impose certain agendas which affect extremely large masses of individuals. Which is a unique stage/development in our 200,000 year evolutionary history. I think capital's flaws are self evident, because unlike other human developments it has lead our species to be stuck in a rather self destructive feedback cycle. And that is counter to nature, because the laws of nature demand forward movement in time. Any species which stops evolving, it is then in a very dangerous non compliance with nature.

Why is forward movement (progress) so important? I believe evolution, is the universe's mechanism for understanding itself which may be its ultimate goal. And thus anything which is counter to that goal, must be against the laws set forth by nature/universe. Most people do not understand our true context, what a lot of people fail to realize is that we're made of star stuff. Literally, look at your hands... and the atoms which make your hand, were born in some star billions of years ago, and who knows how many light years away. And those atoms which have see so much and were part of so many other stars/planes/things/organisms, now form part of a self aware entity. We're as much part of this universe as a star, a planet, a quasar. But unlike any of those celestial bodies, we're self aware. We can think. We are the universe, thinking. Understanding itself. Having actual free will. Having the ability to make things which are not just the end result of taking the laws which govern matter, energy, space, and time to their ultimate consequences. The element of abstract thought, the irrationality of feelings, etc. provide a unique avenue for exploration for the universe itself.


And when you think bout it, it is very easy to get frustrated when one takes an honest stock of ourselves as species. All those billions of years all time and space and energy ... to be a species which pases its days suck on a piece of rock circling around a not so remarkable star, while doing nothing but gracing at their belly buttons. That is the real crime of this savage and virulent version of capitalism (note, I am not excusing anything that came before or after).

Sorry for the incoherent rant. I wish I had the gift of writing, like some far more educated and eloquent members of this site. Oh, well... cheers and thanks for all the fish I guess. ;-)