Reply #35: I recall your 'complaint' was little more than slander accusing the whole Health Care debate...

[joshcryer]

...as being controlled by blue dog DLCers. Fact of the matter is Obama got basically everything he wanted, except a public option. A public option that will have extreme real world pressures to materialize in the not-too-distant future. Essentially bemoaning not having something that is inevitable unless we somehow give the entire Presidency, Congress, and Senate to an extreme right wing President. And then, the only way that happens, the whole top political structure goes right wing, is by the very 'complaints' that are completely disingenuous and completely miss the mark.

Many people are upset with Obama because he argued 'against' a mandate during the primaries (but he never ruled it out completely, and he even talked about fines). Many progressives, like Krugman, are happy that the mandate happened, because it means that the entire industry can only go one way. Krugman in particular was very annoyed that the Republicans were http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/07/23/naked-blackmail/">trying to kill the mandate. Yet I had to endure several pointless debates from people against the mandate here, not because of any reasonable position, but more likely because they don't like that Obama "flip-flopped," etc.