Bush approval rating rebounds in new poll (44% approval - Gallup)

[sabra]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/19/AR2006091900067.html

Bush approval rating rebounds in new poll

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush's approval rating has rebounded to 44 percent, the highest level in a year, in the latest USA TODAY/Gallup Poll, the newspaper reported on Tuesday.

Bush's approval rating jumped five points from 39 percent in the previous poll conducted earlier this month.

The bounce comes with seven weeks before elections to deicide control of Congress amid falling gas prices and a renewed campaign by Bush to boost support for the Iraq war and to portray Republicans as more competent than Democrats on security, the newspaper said.

Bush's approval rating edged up largely on the strength of Republicans coming back to the fold with 86 percent saying they support him now, compared to 70 percent in May, USA Today said.

[fooj]

BWAHAHAHAHA!

Republicans coming back to the fold...

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[EFerrari]

3. LOL!

:rofl:

[fooj]

5. Guess Rasmussen didn't get the memo.

:spray:

[Ignacio Upton]

11. Rasmussen has him back at 41%

Although considering that this Gallup poll was taken 9/15-9/17, I'll be a little nervous about tomorrow's Rasmussen.

[Maddy McCall]

1. Two reasons...1) 9/11 and 2) gas prices declining. N/T

[Downtown Hound]

2. They're setting us up for an election theft

I've never seen more disdain for Bush than I see now. Even long time supporters of his are jumping ship. They're just preparing us for the inevitable election fraud that's about to take place come November.

[EFerrari]

4. Yes. They're seeding the press so in retro, it will look seamless. nt

[Judi Lynn]

6. I'll bet you're right! Manipulating polls, molding public perception. n/t

[fooj]

7. Pollster pleads GUILTY to fraud just weeks ago...

[zanne]

49. Yup. There's a pattern here.

The same thing happened in 2004 and in the Conn. Dem. Primary Race. I'm predicting that two weeks before the election, the Dems and Repubs will be "tied". Now I have to go out and buy a new roll of tinfoil.

[Up2Late]

32. I think you probably nailed it...

...at least here in Georgia, all elections are now rigged, thanks to Cathy Cox and the Diebold Corp.

[Hepburn]

45. I hear you.

I have a friend who is not even registered to vote. She is a former Jehovah's Witness and never got out of the "render unto Caesar" issues associated with being a Witness. I was surprised as hell the other day when she made anti-Bush remarks. Over the years, this gal has had NO interest in politics and for her to come out with those remarks out of the blue??? I nearly fell off my chair when she went into a rant about him. She absolutely hates him and the war, etc., etc.

I have to agree that the 9-11 anniversary and the falling gas prices did give Chimpy a boost...but I cannot see it helping assholes like Santorum and his ilk. The Repukes are going to have to pull out the issues of gay marriage, flag burning and the other right-wing nutcase issues that make them drool and vote for the biggest religious nuts on the ballot. I don't think that associating one's self with Booosh is going to boost the election chances of any candidate. There seems to be a great deal of general underlying hatred to overcome before George is a plus in anyone's campaign.

[glitch]

62. BINGO. I also believe they have been doing this for years, and their big

mistake in the 2004 exit polls was assuming Kerry would get the margin Gore got in 2000. He got way more and that's why they had to do their midnight adjustment.
Too late, too many people caught it.

It is going to be very interesting.

[cal04]

68. I agree.

making it close enough to steal

[truebrit71]

75. Yup. If the gap was too large the theft would be harder...

...gas price coming down....'popularity' going up....yuppers, we're being set-up....AGAIN.

[jaybeat]

100. Bingo, bango, bongo, BABY! (nt)

[Ignacio Upton]

8. This poll looks like crap

Voters are now evenly split on whether or now it was worth going into Iraq? That's definately a 9/11 bounce. However, I expect him to be at 40%-41% in the next Gallup oll, because oil prices will sustain part of the bounce.

[I_Make_Mistakes]

12. Did anyone watch the Eric Boehlert (sp?) "Lapdogs" replay on

on C-span this weekend? The beltway is so out of touch, that if they try to steal this one, I swear there will be an Orange Revolution. I have tried to get my neighbors politically active (at least voting wise) since the last Presidential Election with no movement, now, they are pissed and paying attention. You know, I am mad they didn't before, but better late than never.

There is no one here buying the Repuke (Bush, bs) and just let 'em try to steal it this time. People are so angry about the state of everything in our country they are vocal and pretty sure nothing will stop them from voting out the disgraces that have burdened us with dishonor. I have never seen such a foul mood and I think the Dems in NJ (esp. Menendez) know that going negative will hurt not help this time.

[Ignacio Upton]

16. The public cares more about missing white girls and cheap oil

Than about staging an "Orange Revolution." As long as people have a steady diet of cheap gasoline and new episodes of "Lost" or news about Natalee Holloway, then by golly they'll vote Republican for sure!

[Claire Beth]

44. sad, but true. n/t

[Amonester]

59. And, against their own best interests... (again 'n again) . no/text

[EFerrari]

17. I did. He's smart and articulate and current. I look forward to

reading his book.

And I agree with you about the huge gulf between the real national mood and the cr@P! we are sold as the national mood.

[Bumblebee]

9. Wow, I am surprised they did not call him a "popular" president again!

Other polls will probably be in the 30s again -- judging by the Iraq reaction, this is one weird sample!

[Ignacio Upton]

14. 70% say Iraq is in a civil war

Yet 49% of the country believes it was the right decision to go in? It seems like the USA Today/Gallup polls are statistically-skewed in favor in the GOP, but the regular Gallup Polls are accurate.

[Nimrod2005]

58. Watch Tweety tonight, he will..............

[Up2Late]

10. It's all because it only cost $70 Dollars to fill the Suburban not $85...

...plus, Gallup is always about 6% too high. ReThuglicans are so stupid.:banghead::mad:

[Ignacio Upton]

15. Do you personally know anyone who's changed their mind about Bush

Based on gas prices alone? I'd like to meet one of those people and bash them in the head with a good 2x4.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

19. Who ARE these people?

The percentage who make the polls fluctuate from week to week.

"Umm...I totally hated Bush last week but now I like him again." :wtf:

[Up2Late]

31. I wouldn't recommend it, all the Suburban driving Bush supporters...

...I know are always bragging about the Guns they keep with them at all times, and at this point, it probably wouldn't take much to make them snap.

But maybe that's just Georgia.

[Hepburn]

46. The only mind changes I have seen about Bush...

...are from supporting him to having regrets for having supported him. I have NOT seen one person go from disliking Bush to supporting him, but I have sure seen others go the opposite way.

[themonster]

18. Gas prices

Isn't it interesting how gas prices are coming down just in time for the election. I would bet the farm that they will go up after the election. Next summer they will skyrocket. I think the poll is baloney. I also believe they will try to steal the election again. Right now they are making people believe that Rethugs are closing the gap.

[Ignacio Upton]

20. His "bounce" is partly from 9/11

Although the figure on Iraq makes me wonder if Gallup's data is credible.

[flyarm]

22. bull people here in NJ are more pissed about 9/11 since 9/11 this yr!

and his manipulations..even all the rethugs i know are pissed!

fly

[Ignacio Upton]

23. And yet Kean is still beating Menendez

In the New Jersey Senate race, I doubt that 9/11 will determine the outcome of that election. It will be about corruption at the state and local level.

[flyarm]

27. and if you believe the polls than......

i do not for one minute believe the polls..its how they steal votes..don't all of you get that yet??

a friend was just at the atlantic city state convention and said the inside polls were good..

so more rnc polling buddies bullshit!

not for one minute do i believe the polls here ..not one bit..

every repub i know will be either voting menendez or not voting....

and i am in very repub county..

fly

[krispos42]

34. Crude down 15%, gasoline down 30%

Now, think about this for a minute. Every gallon of gas has three basic costs involved in making it: processing cost, transportation cost, and raw materials cost.

Now the processing cost at the refinery is fairly steady and fixed because the refineries and employees are pretty steady. The transportation costs is also fairly fixed as well, but will fluctuage a little with fuel prices.

That leaves the price of the raw materials.

According to national figures from the U.S. Department of Energy, in March 2006, 55% of the cost of gasoline went to pay for crude oil, 22% for refining, 19% to taxes, and 4% for distribution and marketing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline#Usage_and_pricing

So, then if the price of crude drops 14%, the price of gasoline should only drop by 7 or 8%, which would in March be about 20 cents. Instead, it has dropped 80 cents.

Who wants to bet that 60 cents per gallon will wind up on Big Oil's income-tax form as a "political contrabution"?

[silvermachine]

51. I agree...

...there absolutely should be an investigation into this, but I'm afraid that some Dems are worried that they'll be tagged as tin-foilers. Still, it is just waaaay beyond concidence that this is happening now. Before this administration came along, it's just possible that I would have been less inclined to have a conspiratorial point of view, but after the energy price gouging shenanigans in California ("Death Star"/"Fat Boy", anyone?), along with Cheney's stonewalling regarding the role played by oil/energy suppliers in shaping energy policy, shortly after which these same companies reaped record profits while the consumers suffered...well let's just say that I'm sure nothing is beneath these cretins. Someone should look into this. Barbara Boxer, maybe?

[Amonester]

61. They will skyrocket earlier than next summer...

I have this bad 'premonition' the PNAC crackpots will 'stay the course' and illegally bomb Iran around Thanksgiving thus, 'forcing' the nutjobs in Tehran to retaliate using their last-resort 'oil weapon' ("close" all Persian Gulf "routes"). Such an aggression may 'catapult' the price per barrel to somewhere near $250 (close to $10.00/gal.) and millions 'here' won't afford even just paying their heating bills...

And long before we'll finish burning the rest of our furniture... :scared: BigOil's CEOs will get their bu$hrice&co 'contributions' back in their retirement plans tenfold (exactly what and "why" they paid them for... with our money).
:grr:
:mad:

[The_Casual_Observer]

13. If anything else in life ever "rebounded" to 44% it wouldn't

exactly be a cause for celebration.

[flyarm]

21. oh bullshit ...gallop sucks pissy pants monica!..thats pure B.S.!! N/T

[tritsofme]

24. Presidential job approval is almost always linked to gas prices

But that just means he's shoring up the people who don't absolutely hate him.

In the best of times from this point on, Bush's ceiling must be around 48%.

[Ignacio Upton]

26. In other words, back to where we were two years ago

But gas prices were not the only reason for why he sunk in the polls. It's just that the public doesn't or can't remember Katrina, Social Security privatization, Schiavo intervention, or doesn't want to hear about Iraq anymore so they tune it out.

[Cha]

48. Because the fascist media

doesn't remind them and trys to build up the pimp.

[HughBeaumont]

39. Don't they realize Pretzeldents have no control over gas prices?

Oh wait, that's right . . . they don't. Gas prices characteristically fall around Labor day (not much demand then) and go back up around . . . Well, around the beginning of November, due to Thanksgiving and Christmas travel. It's not rocket science, fence sitters.

How ANYone can approve of the non-job this assvacuum has been doing these 5.5 years is beyond me completely. The man's a walking morgue.

[GetTheRightVote]

25. Here in Fl I here it in the voices of the Senators workers,

Repub, not to happy
Dems, ready to rock and roll

So, atleast in this state * is not popular anyway you look at it.

Repub plan B: steal the elections ! :mad:

:kick:

[Duncan Idaho]

30. nope

Stealing the elction is Plan A, and B and C...

[TexasLawyer]

28. Congressional approval plummeting

Keep your eyes on the prize, guys.

On the most recent WSJ poll:

The survey showed that approval of Congress declined to 20% from 24% in July. Democrats maintained a 48%-39% edge when voters were asked which party should control Congress.

http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Story/Story.aspx?dist=newsfinder&siteid=google&guid=%7B8CC35528-7B59-4A31-811A-BD90E93722B7%7D&keyword=

[Ignacio Upton]

29. Don't use WSJ/Zogby

They're even worse than Gallup in terms of credibility. Rasmussen is better than both of them, at least in terms of state contests.

[aquart]

33. Hey! I'm on Zogby's poll list.

I joined at the request of Buzzflash which got Zogby to agree to up its Democratic representation.

You can go to their site and add your name, too.

[Zynx]

40. That's the regular telephone poll, not the internet one.

[Freddie Stubbs]

42. Zogby was pretty close in the FL primary a few weeks back

He had Davis ahead of Smith by about 5%.

Davis won the primary by about 6%

Zogby had Crist ahead of Gallagher by about 30%

Crist beat Gallagher by about 30%

FL Election results: http://election.dos.state.fl.us/Elections/ResultsArchive/Enight.asp

[tiptoe]

35. "Gallup"-really? What's obvious in recent "Gallup" polls re Bush approval?

Historical Bush Approval Ratings -- 2004-2006 Only
["Gallup" is the dark blue diamond, often aside (or above! in the graph) the "ABC" icon, which "ABC" as "pollster" has been demonstrated a "shill" for BushCo since 2001 (recent example of "ABC" as "broadcaster": airing of "The Path to 9/11"): See ABC Path to Bogus Bush Ratings: 68 month average is highest of 10 pollsters]


( Historical Bush Approval Ratings )

[underpants]

50. Ha! in late Feb2005 Gallup had W at ~57%

I have seen poolkatz's tracking before but never this one. Thanks.

[NOLADEM]

36. Who are these jello brained morons

who change their mind every week or two?

[missTheBigDog]

37. That's ridiculous

Are people really that stupid?? Come on. Changing their mind b/c of gas prices?? Please.

Somebody mentioned a possible election fraud coming up in Nov. I hope to God that that's not the case, but I would not put it past these people. I live in Georgia as well and I can tell you that it goes on here.

[uncle ray]

67. you don't steal one election.

you steal every election. you leave nothing to chance.

[robcon]

38. Who cares?

* isn't running for anything.

[oasis]

41. Chimpy goes ballistic in the Rose Garden and his numbers soar. Get real.

:eyes:

[bluestateguy]

43. Operation Protect the Baby Bush is underway...

[leftyladyfrommo]

47. Well, gag me with a spoon. n/t

A whole party run completely by and for idiots.

[David Dunham]

52. Bush's poll numbers will go down once people forget the 9/11 hoopla

[lonestarnot]

53. Big lie.

[warrens]

54. He's getting a "no disastrous news" bounce

This guy has set the bar so low that if he gets up in the morning without causing an international crisis, the Repukes start crowing about how competent he is.

He's using Iran as a rallying point for the Repukes. He can't talk about Iraq or North Korea or much of anything else, so when in doubt, demonize an entire country. Today's showdown should be interesting, but it's unlikely to help democrats. Let's face it, that nutbar in Iran is off his rocker, but he's very slick in appealing to anti-U.S. elements in the Middle East.

We can argue about Iran and nukes til the cows come home, but this guy is going to motivate some Repukes to go out and vote. Karl Rove knows that stirring hate and dissension is the only way his thugs can win.

[superconnected]

55. l don't believe it. He's been on the news talking lately.

His numbers only improve when he shuts up and goes away.

[AnneD]

56. Even a dead cat bounces...

polls are going to flux. Heck the margin of error can reduce him in the polls. We need to keep this election as a referendum on the GOP and Bush. Our theme should be 'Had enough-vote Dem'. And of course the press and GOP will scream....but you don't have a plan. Well frankly, where most Americans sit-it doesn't look like the GOP has a plan either and they have had 6 years to come up with something that will work. We can do better. We can't make promises because God only knows how truly bad the mess is that the GOP will be leaving behind. But we have had enough and we can do better.

[Lurking Dem]

64. .

:rofl:

[NotGivingUp]

57. hell, they'll just make up any numbers they want !

[lovuian]

60. Its a LIE

this regime Lies and Lies and Lies

How many elections can replay the same scenario 50 50 ratios and then his side wins

Mexico Gore Kerry
How many times can this keep happinging
There are No coincidences everything is connected...

[Tuesday_Morning]

63. Such manipulative BS!

I don't know of a single b*sh supporter right now. Not one!

[oasis]

65. The great and powerful Oz has the sheeple in a mad dash back to his

protective custody. Only he can save them from the "islamo-fascists".

[zonkers]

66. Gallop poll? Horseshit.

[GeorgeGist]

69. How many people will sell their soul...

for 'cheap' gas on election day and forever after?

[ProgressiveEconomist]

70. The last sentence of the OP may be the key to understanding this

apparent statistical anomaly:

"Bush's approval rating edged up largely on the strength of Republicans coming back to the fold with 86 percent saying they support him now, compared to 70 percent in May"

Alone among major polling methodologies, Gallup's allows party biases from screening for likely voters to infect key results. (See http://gking.harvard.edu/files/preelection.pdf for a somewhat dated but still likely accurate survey. ).

Remember, the election poll results we see are attempts to predict the behavior of LIKELY voters. In the polling process, random landline phone numbers (excluding cell-phone numbers) are called until a target number of interviews have been recorded. Before getting to key questions about whether they approve or disapprove of or intend to vote for X, respondents are asked series of questions to determine whether or not they are likely to vote. Some organizations ask whether respondents are REGISTERED Republicans, while other organizations ask respondents whether they IDENTIFY THEMSELVES as Republicans.

One plausible explanation for the anomalous result may be that, since May, people have become a bit less likely to self-identify as Republicans, and those who have been enthusiastic Republican voters in the past now are a bit less likely to tell pollsters they definitely plan to vote in November.

If that hypothesis were true, then self-identified Republicans interviewed yesterday would tend to be more hard-core in their suppport for Bush than self-identified Rs interviewed in May. Hence the jump in measured support for Dubya among "Republicans" from 70 percent to 86 percent. That is HUGE and IMO unlikely to be accurate.

[CreekDog]

71. Gallup now applying "likely voter" model

They have Republicans turning out in nearly the same numbers as Democrats in their model, which is skewing things a bit. For instance their generic congressional ballot for likely voters has R's and D's nearly tied at 48-48, but among registered voters it's 51 D-42 R.

That may be part of the issue.

[ProgressiveEconomist]

72. Do you have a link?

I'd love to see the actual question wording they're using, and the raw demographics of their samples from May and September.

[CreekDog]

73. Here's some info, but no link

No link but got this from the National Journal's Hotline:

58 USA TODAY/GALLUP: How Important Is Turnout? Check Out LV/RV Difference In Generic Ballot

Conducted 9/15-17; surveyed 1003 adults; margin of error +/- 3.1% (release, 9/19). 34%D, 31%R, 34%I/O.


Bush As Pres. Now 9/10 8/20 8/10 7/30 7/23 7/9 6/25 6/11 6/4 5/11
Approve 44% 39% 42% 37% 40% 37% 40% 37% 38% 36% 33%
Disapprove 51 56 54 59 56 59 55 60 56 57 61

Generic Cong. Ballot
------------LVs------------
Now 9/10 8/20 7/30 7/9 6/25
Dem 48% 53% 48% 50% 51% 55%
GOP 48 43 48 42 42 38

--------------RVs---------------
Now 9/10 8/20 8/10 7/30 7/9 6/25
51% 53% 47% 50% 51% 51% 54%
42 41 45 41 40 41 38


Is That More A Vote ___? Is That More A Vote ___?
(RVs planning to vote Dem) (RVs planning to vote GOP)
For Dems 52% For GOP 69%
Against GOP 38 Against Dems 21

[ProgressiveEconomist]

76. Thanks for those numbers. A detailed report of the latest results

is available from the Gallup homepage ( http://www.galluppoll.com ) but requires a $95 subscription.

I'm somewhat relieved to note that the 9/15 - 9/17 sample period overwhelmingly precedes media coverage of Dubya's Rose Garden meltdown on Friday the 17th. If the next set of Gallup results doesn't show a decline for Dubya, then I may join the tinfoil crowd here.

Also, in your Hotline numbers, did you notice that the generic Congressional race is now even (48-48) among 1,003 likely voters, but Dems have a 9-point lead among the subset of already-registered voters? That would seem to imply that 94 PERCENT of likely voters not yet registered will go Republican! I find that impossible to believe.

(September 15-17 results for different questions among 888 registered voters seemed to be from a subset of the 1,003 likely voters. That would leave 1003 - 888 = 115 likely voters not yet registered, and (0.48*1003 - 0.42*888) / 115 = 0.94!

This is an oversimplification, assuming away the approximately 20 percent of registered voters who traditionally never make it to the polls, but a more complex analysis still would strain credulity).

[ProgressiveEconomist]

102. There are minor mistakes (of omission and of commission) in post #70.

Since it's now to late to edit, and since there's now a Gallup thread with more of a statisical focus, I have revised and reposted to http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2835585&mesg_id=2836119
.

[demo dutch]

74. Gallup??? LOL!!! Gallup is owned by a man named James Clifton

http://blogs.onenw.org/gideon/2004/09/27/gallup-polling-bias-towards-gop/

"James Clifton is on record as giving political contributions to Herman Cain. Cain is the former President and CEO of Godfather’s Pizza and is a big tax reform guy running for one of Georgia’s seats in the Senate. Clifton and Cain look as though they got to know each other when Cain served a stint as an Executive Lecturer for the Gallup Organization"

[mhatrw]

77. Good old Gallup.

They poll only at Koolaid stands throughout middle America.

[slackmaster]

78. Don't listen to the TV People

Stay away from the light.

The only poll that matters is the one in November.

All others are done by people who make money by doing polls.

They are distractions.

They are not real.

[Bill McBlueState]

79. Why is this considered a bounce?

All I see is a consistent approval rating in the low 40's, with each new poll representing various excursions around the margin of error.

I know it gives the TV newspeople something to talk about, but I don't think these little ~few percent changes in *'s approval rating represent any real change in the mood of the populace.

[melody]

80. Even in a fake poll, they're bragging about 44%????????

Yeah, only 56% of the country hates him.

In reality, even Rasmussen has him tanking again.

[Danieljay]

81. Bush approval rating rebounds in new poll

This can't be true.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060919/pl_nm/bush_poll_dc

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush's approval rating has rebounded to 44 percent, the highest level in a year, in the latest USA TODAY/Gallup Poll, the newspaper reported on Tuesday.



Bush's approval rating jumped five points from 39 percent in the previous poll conducted earlier this month.


Bush's approval rating edged up largely on the strength of Republicans coming back to the fold with 86 percent saying they support him now, compared to 70 percent in May, USA Today said.

[Monkeyman]

82. Bump from 9/11 it will fall again

[trotsky]

83. Pretty much to be expected.

Gas prices drop, Republicans celebrate 9/11, etc. Get back to me with his poll numbers in a week or two.

[ShortnFiery]

84. This is PsyOps Bull Shit directly ordered by The Rulers at Rove-Co.

[wordpix]

87. that's what I'm thinking but don't diss the magic of dropping gas prices

the pRes has apparently told his puppetmasters if they want to make record profits for another 2 yrs., they'd better drop the price of oil through the election.

Just my guess but I think I'm right. :evilgrin:

[davekriss]

90. Yes

The idea is to get the polls close (even if only Bush, who is not running), and thereby make the Theft of '06 plausible. I'm not surprised at all.

[goclark]

85. They have been saying it all day on TV nt

Can't be true,

I read here there was a bounce but now there is not.

[napi21]

86. I find it amusing that some are actually celebrating 44% rating!

As we've all seen, Shrub's poll numbers fluctuate all over the place, and have for a long time. I'm in total agreement with some of the professionalswho watch the polls. "Onlyreally look at them with interest, every 30 days or so. Daily monitoring doesn't show you anything!"

[wordpix]

88. having difficulty believing it's that high---who's smoking what?

[LibDemAlways]

89. How predictable is this? Who'd have ever thought

that bogus polls would be put forth as the midterms approach showing the chimp gaining in popularity? Got to hand it to the repukes. They are nothing if not consistent.

[AX10]

91. 9/11 and Gas Prices drop.

If anything at all.

[ShortnFiery]

97. Now these are two points (variables affecting Sept 15-17)

fully agree with you. You suggest valid points: an atypical result due to short-term variables. ;)

[whistle]

92. Based on his domestic campaign speech at the UN today....

...depending on how many kool aid drinking freepers and RW evangelicals were watching it as well as the MSM selection of appropriate sound bites from that pathetic rhetoric, it could go up a couple more points. But Bush is not running for anything so why do his approval ratings at this point mean anything for republicans?

However, it may tip opinion in his favor to start bombing Iran.

[MikeNearMcChord]

93. Funny, when Bill Clinton's numbers was hovering around

60%-70% during impeachment, Rush would say why are these polls high and accuse the media of making news out of this to protect him.

[keopeli]

94. dupe

[ShortnFiery]

95. Dumb asses never highlighted that the poll was taken immediately

after all the "dog and pony" speeches from 9/11! The Days After! (September 15-17)

Odds are, the sentimental B.S. emotions would have settled down with little time subsequent to the jingoistic hoop-la ... Duh! And :wtf:? 86% of Republicans NOW support Dear Leader. No they need to get back on the phones and take ANOTHER more recent poll. :(

PLUS these Poll geniuses forgot the add that the margin of error alone (+ or - 3) can validly considered to account for the bump. These findings are NOT statistically significant! = no valid long term predictions can be "hinted at" because there were so many intervening variables, i.e., 9/11 commerations, only 1003 is NOT a solid sampling, the increse was only 2 points above the margin of error. :wtf:!!! :thumbsdown:

My point: There's Lies, Damn Lies, And Gallup Poll Analyses

No statistically significant rise can be validly asserted.

But all bets are off for the paid-off USA M$M whores in Bush-World. :grr:

[imfreaky]

96. it's all crap pay no attention

[jaybeat]

99. This is all to help make the "plausibility" argument come November

I was listening to someone on NPR over the weekend (don't remember who), and his basic gist was "Well, Bush and the Republicans still have a long way to go, but it looks like they might be on their way back..."

44% (a complete and total fabrication, IMO) is NEWS only because he was in the low 30s and has done *nothing* since to justify increased support, even among the most highly delusional (whose numbers are always greatly inflated, also IMO). But that's not the spin being applied. No one in the MSM dares even *suggest* the numbers are bogus, or that they have *nothing* to do with how toxic it is to be a Republican in the eyes of the vast majority of citizens. That would interfere with the "story."

Just like a openly fictional story has a plot, and episodic TV shows have a "story arc," it is looking more and more like we are a ways into the story of "The Triumph, Fall, and Ultimate Resurgence of George II."

"The Self-Destruction of the George NeoCon Puppet" is not playing, and never will, at this or any other multi-plex near you. Instead, we are offered installment after installment leading up to a "remarkable comeback" by the Republicans in November (aided, as always, by the ever-popular "Democrats in Disarray"), which will pave the way for the "Final Showdown" between America and All that is Good, and the Evil Empire of Islamic "Fascists".

I'm sure the networks are already developing their on-air graphics. :popcorn:

Of course, the other real stories, like the rape and destruction of America and the rest of the world, the ultimate triumph of the corporatists over everyone else, the dissolution of democracy and the ultimate destruction of life on Earth by the psychopaths that control our government, are not stories they want to tell. So they don't. And they won't.

After all, that would complicate the, er, "plot."

[Lasher]

98. Obvious cherrypicking and maybe worse.

The "previous poll conducted earlier this month" is probably a Gallup poll that was conducted from 9/7/06 to 9/10/06, which reflected a 39% approval rating for Junior. The "latest USA TODAY/Gallup Poll" ran from 9/15/06 to 9/17/06, but the Reuters article failed to mention a 9/14/06 to 9/17/06 Survey USA poll that gave The Decider 39%.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/archive/?poll_id=19#data

The Real Clear Politics composite shows Chimpy's approval rating at 40.8%, which is close to where it has been - despite this unusually high approval rating that Gallup has reported. For the record, this is the very first time I have ever seen any presidential approval poll higher than Rasmussen's during an equivalent time period.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/

[Thickasabrick]

101. Bottom line - he's not the one running for anything in November so -

Big Fucking Deal.

[wisteria]

103. We can't have it both ways, the polls can't be right when Bush is

down and wrong when Bush is up. I say it is an irrelevant bump because they have managed to change the subject, just like the media has been saying. We need to fight a little harder to change the topic back to what we have determined is Bush soft underbelly, the war in Iraq. We need to get the message across that we need real change in Iraq and on the war on terror. We need to call attention to the slumping housing market and the quality of jobs being offered. What about health care and education also.Now is not the time to be whinny about Bush's poll numbers. We instead need to be fighting back and fighting off the change in topic. Refocus on Iraq and drive home the points about how Bush has not done much to keep us safe from terror.

[ShortnFiery]

104. Oh stop the "whiny" accusations, the BASIC controls of this poll

and the conclusions drawn were not statistically sound.

Look at my rationale above.

If you believe all else, the mere fact that they did not factor in the "margin of error" (+ or - 3 points), they HONESTLY can NOT conclude that he enjoyed a significant increase in popularity.

Lies, Damn Lies, and "Gallup Poll Analyses"