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sabra
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Wed Jan-17-07 10:00 AM Original message |
Military judge: objector can't raise questions about war legality |
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baldguy
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Wed Jan-17-07 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
1. George Orwell is laughing. |
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coalition_unwilling
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Thu Jan-18-07 03:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
39. George Orwell is crying (or laughing to keep from crying) - n/t |
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gratuitous
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Wed Jan-17-07 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
2. No surprise there |
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Marnieworld
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Wed Jan-17-07 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
3. And that is why military trials are a joke |
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sanskritwarrior
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Sat Jan-20-07 05:17 PM Response to Reply #3 |
50. It's a |
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soothsayer
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Wed Jan-17-07 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
4. So Nuremburg was just political fun and games? |
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IndianaGreen
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Wed Jan-17-07 11:04 PM Response to Reply #4 |
29. Apparently the law only applies to the losers |
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Doctor_J
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Sat Jan-20-07 11:38 AM Response to Reply #29 |
48. So we won? |
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LynnTheDem
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Wed Jan-17-07 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
5. Wow! A US military judge who's never read Article 92 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice |
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Kagemusha
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Wed Jan-17-07 10:44 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. But it's not like this should have been unexpected. |
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LynnTheDem
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Wed Jan-17-07 10:50 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. That bush's invasion of Iraq is without doubt illegal and should not |
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Kagemusha
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Wed Jan-17-07 10:57 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Yeah, it's really too bad I must say |
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LynnTheDem
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Wed Jan-17-07 11:20 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. And the US is currently going the route of the USSR, |
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Stanchetalarooni
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Wed Jan-17-07 11:29 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Kinda helps to understand a terrorist' mindset. |
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coalition_unwilling
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Thu Jan-18-07 03:37 PM Response to Reply #6 |
40. It was not a "lawful order," as the order was involved in the |
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pberq
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:22 PM Response to Reply #5 |
15. The judge's decision is political, not the other way around. |
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bonito
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Wed Jan-17-07 02:26 PM Response to Reply #5 |
18. . |
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slackmaster
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Wed Jan-17-07 05:55 PM Response to Reply #5 |
23. What part of the Constitution or US Code prohibits trespassing in another country? |
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LynnTheDem
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Wed Jan-17-07 09:46 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. The part of the USC that deems all treaties entered into by the US as |
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slackmaster
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Thu Jan-18-07 11:17 AM Response to Reply #25 |
34. Trespassing is a misdemeanor at worst |
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LynnTheDem
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Thu Jan-18-07 12:21 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. war of aggression is "the supreme crime" |
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slackmaster
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Fri Jan-19-07 10:49 AM Response to Reply #36 |
46. Watada was not ordered to prosecute a war of aggression |
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Mudoria
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Thu Jan-18-07 03:30 PM Response to Reply #25 |
38. Yes but the UN and International |
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coalition_unwilling
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Thu Jan-18-07 03:40 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. All treaties entered into by the U.S. have the full force and weight |
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LynnTheDem
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Fri Jan-19-07 02:56 AM Response to Reply #38 |
45. That isn't what the US Constitution says. |
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Thothmes
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Thu Jan-18-07 08:13 AM Response to Reply #5 |
32. Unlawful orders |
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Peace Patriot
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Wed Jan-17-07 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
11. I just want to thank Lt. Ehren Watada again, for his bravery and his patriotism. |
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Big_Mike
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Wed Jan-17-07 12:30 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Frankly, no. Unless a federal judge or the Congress says it is illegal |
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Solon
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Wed Jan-17-07 09:55 PM Response to Reply #13 |
27. Actually, I don't think that's entirely accurate... |
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Sgent
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Thu Jan-18-07 09:59 PM Response to Reply #27 |
44. A signed act |
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coalition_unwilling
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Thu Jan-18-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #11 |
42. Reminiscent of Eugene Debs' run for Prez from a prison cell - n/t |
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screembloodymurder
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Wed Jan-17-07 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
12. I'm beginning to think Bush was right, |
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Barrett808
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
14. Grim, but not unexpected. See Gen. Telford Taylor's book, "Nuremburg and Vietnam" |
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uppityperson
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
16. k&r I do not agree with this, with military trials of guilty, must prove innocent and blocked |
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EndElectoral
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Wed Jan-17-07 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
17. Have there been any civilan cases challenging legality of war? |
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krispos42
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Wed Jan-17-07 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
19. Randi's gonna shit bricks tonight |
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midnight
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Wed Jan-17-07 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
20. Isn't that the whole point of objecting to this war? |
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slackmaster
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Wed Jan-17-07 06:42 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. An individual soldier doesn't have standing to object to a war |
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LynnTheDem
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Wed Jan-17-07 09:49 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Yes they do. |
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slackmaster
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Thu Jan-18-07 11:18 AM Response to Reply #26 |
35. Please cite case law |
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pdrichards114
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Wed Jan-17-07 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
21. You cannot win in a rigged game. |
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slackmaster
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Wed Jan-17-07 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
22. The order for Watada to report for duty was not illegal |
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IndianaGreen
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Wed Jan-17-07 11:03 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. The war is illegal, order to go to an illegal war are illegal |
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Nihil
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Thu Jan-18-07 04:32 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. That is the key. The soldier was upholding "the Constitution" ... |
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slackmaster
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Thu Jan-18-07 11:17 AM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Bullshit |
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coalition_unwilling
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Thu Jan-18-07 03:44 PM Response to Reply #22 |
43. They did not order Watada to "report for duty". They ordered him |
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slackmaster
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Sat Jan-20-07 11:37 AM Response to Reply #43 |
47. Do you think you could split that hair a little finer for me? |
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Springster
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Thu Jan-18-07 07:58 AM Response to Original message |
31. This is not the first time a soldier has tried this kind of defense |
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WebeBlue
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Thu Jan-18-07 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
37. Citizens' Hearing on Legality of US Actions in Iraq - Jan 20-21 - Tacoma, WA |
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Joey Liberal
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Sat Jan-20-07 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
49. The Army is out to get Watada |
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Nevernever
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Sat Jan-20-07 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
51. How is questioning the LEGALITY of the war a POLITICAL issue? |
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sanskritwarrior
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Sun Jan-21-07 03:36 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Because |
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