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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 11:29 AM
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A retired Col from the Alabama Nat Guard steps forward to confirm Bush
was there, From CNN or FOX this AM. Nothing was said of missing Med Checkups. He is gonna look for others to verify.

If this is a dupe, delete.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 11:34 AM
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1. oh, come on
how hard was that for them to "convince" someone to speak up. Good grief, what next...
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leftyandproud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 01:59 PM
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15. bottom line...one word vs another
I don't think we have any devastating evidence against Bush...especially considering the extremely flexible schedules of national guard members. I know someone in the guard, and they don't need to be at every drill...If they can't make it, they reschedule. It doesn't make them AWOL because they take a month off. This may be the case for active duty soldiers, but not part time national guard folks. That's the reality of it.
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Langis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 11:34 AM
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2. Just like the other guy?
Who said he server with Bush during the 6 months Bush never got paid.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 11:49 AM
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4. It was on MsNBC, as I got up from sleep, I see
this ret Col saying Bush served his time. and that he is gonna look for more witnesses.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 11:38 AM
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3. And I was at Woodstock........
:hippie: :hippie: :hippie:

I was sitting up near the stage. I had a bandana on. Remember me?



One guy comes forward to remember Bush when Bush's records show he wasn't around. He says Bush was a hard worker. Now we know he's lying! So now the media rushes his face on TV. What a joke. Bush was a NG slacker. Does anyone dispute this?
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 11:50 AM
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5. I think he was a "slacker" and a yellow bellied one at that
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loudnclear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 11:57 AM
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6. Why was he suspended then? Showing up for FREE medical care but
not showing up for physicals for duty...what the hell is that all about. I am waiting for the cute littel waitress or some other little ditty who was laying up with Bush during that time to come forward. You know between drugging and drinking, you know he was fornicating.
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 11:58 AM
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7. This is going to get interesting, others are saying differently
http://www.memphisflyer.com/content.asp?ID=5480&ArticleID=2

Two members of the Air National Guard unit that President George W. Bush allegedly served with as a young Guard flyer in 1972 had been told to expect him and were on the lookout for him. He never showed, however; of that both Bob Mintz and Paul Bishop are certain.

The question of Bushs presence in 1972 at Dannelly Air National Guard base in Montgomery, Alabama or the lack of it has become an issue in the 2004 presidential campaign.

Recalls Memphian Mintz, now 62: I remember that I heard someone was coming to drill with us from Texas. And it was implied that it was somebody with political influence. I was a young bachelor then. I was looking for somebody to prowl around with. But, says Mintz, that somebody -- better known to the world now as the president of the United States -- never showed up at Dannelly in 1972. Nor in 1973, nor at any time that Mintz, a FedEx pilot now and an Eastern Airlines pilot then, when he was a reserve first lieutenant at Dannelly, can remember.

And I was looking for him, repeated Mintz, who said that he assumed that Bush changed his mind and went somewhere else to do his substitute drill. It was not somewhere else, however, but the 187th Air National Guard Tactical squadron at Dannelly to which the young Texas flyer had requested transfer from his regular Texas unit the reason being Bushs wish to work in Alabama on the ultimately unsuccessful U.S. Senate campaign of family friend Winton "Red" Blount.

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(Here are some people the reporters should be hunting down)
Though some accounts reckon the total personnel component of the 187th as consisting of several hundred, the actual flying squadron that to which Bush was reassigned numbered only 25 to 30 pilots, Mintz said. Theres no doubt. I would have heard of him, seen him, whatever. Even if Bush, who was trained on a slightly different aircraft than the F4 Phantom jets flown by the squadron, opted not to fly with the unit, he would have had to encounter the rest of the flying personnel at some point, in non-flying formations or drills. And if he did any flying at all, on whatever kind of craft, that would have involved a great number of supportive personnel. It takes a lot of people to get a plane into the air. But nobody I can think of remembers him.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 12:07 PM
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10. Wish CNN - FAUX - MSNBC would run this story
Maybe even interview 'em.

Thanks for the story, kayell.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 02:09 PM
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16. Here's the numbers on this story now
It's not going away.

Bob Mintz - 7 google hits

Bill Burkett - 171 google hits

Jonh Calhoun - 6 google hits
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 03:43 PM
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17. Memphian Mintz, remember the name folks,maybe he can get on Pacifica Radio
Edited on Sat Feb-14-04 03:44 PM by oasis
to tell his story. This is going to be a long campaign.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 12:02 PM
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8. This is the guy
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 12:02 PM
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9. on first 10 minutes of NBC TODAY show also.
no real questioning - although did ask how you saw him and no one else did - answer - they were not there on the weekends

he claimed attendance sheet sent in - obvious follow up of "then why was he not paid" was not asked

also Bush claims make-ups were done, but this fellow implies make ups were not needed

also fact that fellow is a GOP volunteer was not mentioned.
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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 12:09 PM
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11. He worked for free, obviously...
Now the government will owe him back pay PLUS interest.

That should be quite a tidy sum.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 12:22 PM
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12. If indeed Junior was a "fly-boy" - - where are the pictures ??
.
.

Heck, he was being "groomed" for politics, so pictures of Junior IN a plane, standing by a plane - etc. etc., should be all over the place, - no?

A great number of pilots get their pictures taken with their buddies, with their planes, etc. etc.

I wold expect a whole GAGGLE of pictures to be available if indeed Junior was active in the Military in ANY capacity.

Then again, maybe pictures of his youth may parallel that of his daughters - - ? ?




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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 01:50 PM
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13. Exactly! The guy that ran with this photo I understand is now dead
died of anthrax
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bagnana Donating Member (858 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 01:55 PM
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14. when was he there???
The guy didn't even apply to show up in Alabama until September 1972 -- so that means from May (when his original transfer request was denied), until September he was AWOL. Doesn't it???
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 03:47 PM
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18. Not LBN... locking
Please continue discussion in one of the existing LBN threads about this subject.

Thanks!

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