Judge Denies Electronic Voting Challenge/ Bev Harris a Conspiracy Theorist

[DoYouEverWonder]

AP Wire

February 18, 2004

SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- A Superior Court judge rejected a legal challenge Wednesday to California's March 2 primary over allegations that new electronic voting systems are vulnerable to hackers.

Judge Raymond Cadei denied a temporary restraining order sought against electronic voter machine maker Diebold Election Systems, Inc., saying there isn't enough evidence of security threats to justify interfering in an election just 13 days away.

A group of computer programmers and California voters alleged that new electronic touch-screen voting machines being used in at least 14 counties on March 2 are insecure and could be manipulated to disrupt election results. Legal challengers included Sacramento computer consultant Jim March and Washington state resident Bev Harris, who has written extensively on possible security glitches in new electronic voting systems.

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Diebold attorney Daniel D. McMillan called the challenge a "waste of public resources" brought on by publicity-seeking "conspiracy theorists."



This McMillan guy sounds like a real piece of work. Excuse me, a waste of public resources? How dare anyone question the validity of their bogus machines. Oh that's right we're all just a bunch of crack pots. Hang in their Bev & Co., these guys just continue to prove on a daily basis what a bunch of slimballs they really are.

[greatauntoftriplets]

1. Shit!!! Pardon my French.

Not good news. Damn.

Wonder if the judge is a Democrat or a Republican.

[dweller]

4. does it matter?

i'm without a clue how to address this.

my guaranteed right to vote is now nothing more than a conspiracy?

:mad:

dp

[Bozita]

6. Judge was appointed by Governor Gray Davis

http://www.senior-spectrum.com/news01_042903/

Can't cut and paste from this article.

[Kelvin Mace]

2. Spoken like a true

ambulance-chasing scumbag.

David Allen
www.plan9.org

Diebold Voting Machines
We vote for you, so you don't have to!

[dusty64]

3. Not enough evidence?

What planet are these people living on?

[joeunderdog]

14. Just wait...some geek will turn an election upside down.

That'll happen sooner than later. Let's just hope the press reports it. Some nerd will rig it so that Mister Rogers gets all the votes or something. Just because he can.

[R Hickey]

16. That is the solution...

If a computer hacker were able to rig Diebold's machines so that the 'fix' is totally obvious, like electing Buggs Bunny, then the problem would go away.

[The Zanti Regent]

5. No doubt the judge is a Republican

OR the Nazi Republicans bought him/her off!

[hang a left]

18. This is not a one party issue.

The repugnants are not the monsters here.

"The case for the government by the elite is irrefutable...government by the People is possible but highly improbable." - J. William Fulbright, former Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, at a 1963 symposium.

[The Zanti Regent]

19. Wanna bet?

You think those Georgia 2002 results weren't rigged by the Nazi Republican Party?

[Lori Price CLG]

7. That's why we need to bring our own paper ballots...

Citizens For Legitimate Government Launches B.Y.O.B., Bring Your Own (paper) Ballot, Campaign for "Election" 2004 ( press release from www.legitgov.org)

CLG Founder and Honorary Chair, Michael D. Rectenwald, announced the CLG's inauguration of the B.Y.O.B., Bring Your Own (paper) Ballot, campaign. The group calls for voters in the 2004 presidential contest to print, fill-out, and notarize their own copy of the CLG paper ballot receipt, as a safeguard against known flaws and vulnerabilities of touch-screen voting and the recent history of discarding votes and overthrowing election results.

[still_one]

8. One way around it is to vote an absentee ballot

[Cronus Protagonist]

11. NOT! - they get put into the Diebold machines too

Maybe they might keep the ballots somewhere afterwards, but if they're following the normal modus operandus of a vote fixer, they'll destroy the ballots after they're entered into the Diebold machines, for "privacy reasons".

"FUCK BUSH" Buttons, Stickers & Magnets

[Just Me]

9. FINE!!! JUST GIVE ME MY DAMNED RECEIPT!!!

Whoops,...I am screaming again. Breathing deeply.

I want a receipt *smile*.

Every voter should be entitled to that!!!

Doncha' think?

[stepnw1f]

10. Where is the CLG receipt?

[Fla_Dem]

15. A receipt would be totally useless

Th emachine could be programmed to print out what the voter selected, but record for counting whomever it has been programmed to give the election to.

Just remember one thing, the election officials generally program the machine, so what is to stop a democrat from rigging an election ?

[bushisanidiot]

20. This Is What Freeps Need To Hear. If The Machines Are Vulnerable

to hacking then they are vulnerable to hacking by democrats & republicans alike. The freeps should be jumping on the bandwagon here too.. they are always crying "voter fraud" (although it's usually when too many non-whites get to vote..) we should get them involved in the black box voting fight.

[Blue-Jay]

21. A receipt is NOT useless.

The purpose of a receipt is not for "proof of purchase", but instead to provide an auditable verification that the votes were indeed accurately registered. The idea is not to take it home with you, but to drop it off (after checking it) at the voting place before you leave. That way, if the result is challenged, there is a means for a physical recount.

Sounds reasonable, no?

[DeepModem Mom]

12. kick

[brainshrub]

13. Oh poop...

This is so dangerous that I can't believe anybody who loves Democracy would allow it.

[PsychoDad]

17. Another nail in the coffin of the republic...

Now we have no right to demand a secure election without being tin hatters?

When is this going into the streets?

[Moderator]

22. Locking

Please match the title of your post to the title of the article. Thanks.

"Judge Rejects Calif. Voting Challenge"