RightMarch Reacts to MoveOn's Push to Censure Bush

[joeunderdog]

SPARTANBURG, SC (Talon News) -- In response to last week's petition by liberal online political group MoveOn.org to censure President George W. Bush, RightMarch.com is taking out full-page ads in Washington, DC newspapers urging members of Congress to disregard this movement from the radical left.

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RightMarch.com says Bush-bashing groups like MoveOn.org working in tandem with the Democratic Party have repeatedly claimed that Bush purposefully "misled the American people and the Congress" to justify going to war with Iraq. MoveOn.org is even telling Congress that Bush knew there were no weapons of mass destruction and that Iraq was not an imminent danger to the United States.

However, RightMarch cites a recent Washington Times report that found Iraq possessed stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons; it was reconstituting its nuclear-bomb research; it was producing missiles beyond the range allowed by U.N. resolutions; and its research continued into chemical and biological agents.

"President Bush was right!" RightMarch.com exclaimed.

more comedy here...
http://www.gopusa.com/news/2004/february/0219_rightmarch_moveon_censure.shtml

The gloves are off and the hands are dirty!

[smiley_glad_hands]

1. Rightmarch = Astroturfing?

[RedSox02]

2. So move on is a "radical group"?

Funny how any Democratic or Progressive website, even one with 300,000 plus members is somehow a radical fringe leftist group to these people.

[Robbien]

5. Consider the source, GOPusa is a rabid right site

And they are one of the sponsors of MoveRight.

[icymist]

8. Anyone who disagrees with them is a radical group.

What did you expect? Fair and Balanced?

[Gin]

29. color me a radical leftie.

gin

[arcane1]

3. if the Moonie Times says it, it MUST be true!

:eyes:

[Robb]

12. No kidding

They got us dead to rights with that one. That paper might be the least unimpeachable thing SINCE Bush.

Like how I came full circle with that one? :silly:

[Claire Beth]

4. Impeach dipwad n/t.

[hang a left]

6. Well let's just have some televised congressional hearings

and get to the bottom of this once and for all.

[SammyWinstonJack]

30. That'll work for me!

Bring it on!

[Chovexani]

7. My senator's line was busy all day

I called my Congress critters today about it. The staffer that answered Hillary's phone sounded harried, and I couldn't even get through to Schumer, his phone was busy all day. I hope that's a good thing. :)

This Rightmarch outfit smells like astroturf to me.

[Just Me]

35. Me, too,..this is an amazing spectacle of "truth" versus "lies",...

,..."fact" versus "fiction", "compassion" versus "sold-hearted", "goodness" versus "evil"!!!

[central scrutinizer]

9. "RightMarch" ??

That is a chilling name - gives me the heebie jeebies.

[NC_Nurse]

11. MoveON rocks!

If it weren't for them I would never have found this forum and stayed a demoralized dem from a red/neck state!
They got me energized again!

Too bad I don't know what I'm doing, never been in a chat before...but I enjoy reading y'all's posts...makes me feel less isolated.

At least somebody else is as mad as I am...

[Lars39]

13. Welcome to DU , NC_Nurse !!!!!

:toast:

[scarletwoman]

15. Welcome to DU!

:hi: :grouphug: So glad you found us!

It gets crazy here -- sometimes downright infuriating -- but the information and energy here is incomparable! We're a diverse group, with lots of different STRONGLY held opinions -- but the thing to remember is that no one opinion is necessarily any more worthy than any other.

Hope you enjoy your time here, and find it edifying and educational!

Best wishes,
sw

[proud patriot]

16. Yes Moveon is great Welcome Underground NC_Nurse

Be sure to visit the lounge , I'll
buy you a virtual drink :hi:

[Palacsinta]

17. Hi ya, Nursie!

Welcome! Yes, every time I sign a MoveOn petition, I feel like at least I'm doing SOMETHING and on the record!
I'm a lonely little fish (with Ick, apparently!) in a big sea of Repubs, too.

[short bus president]

20. Welcome to DU, NC_Nurse

from yer friends down the road in Chapel Hillsborough.

:hi:

[NC_Nurse]

23. Cool! I'm in Chapel Hill

I must admit, I don't get out much.

The people I'm around at work are not "classic" chapel hill lefties at all!

Things have changed a lot since I moved here 20+ years ago.

Thanks for the welcome! Email me so I can find you sometime.

Robin

[duhneece]

25. Welcome to DU

Finding MoveOn saved my sanity...oops, too late!
Seriously, I'm so glad DU is here for all of us. Looking forward to reading your posts.

[WarNoMore]

36. Welcome! After lurking for over 2 years,

decided to get my feet wet. Glad I did, your're in for a treat.

[murielm99]

39. Welcome, Nurse!

You are not alone.

You don't have to be an expert to be here, just a good Democrat, or a concerned independent, or a former repuke. There is lots of room for anybody who wants to see shrub and his minions defeated.

I have learned alot just by being here and reading the posts.

Glad to have you.:hi:

[louis-t]

33. Did you say RightMarch.....

or ReichMarch?

[librechik]

10. keep on pushing the blatant lies, RightMarch

Everyone loves to watch a goosstepping army of blackbooted fascists!Sieg! Heil!

can they seriously expect people to swallow this stuff? Oh, yeah I guess they do...

[Lindsay]

14. NC_Nurse, welcome

to DU. You are not alone!

[NC_Nurse]

18. Thank you so much!

I'm crying at my computer now...

I worked for the Clinton campaign here in 1992 because I was so afraid of the "Bush Machine" and their right wing agenda. Of course we lost in NC anyway by a couple of thousand votes but at least it didn't matter cause he won anyway!

I haven't been as active since, mainly due to divorce and finances...but also due to feeling disgusted with the whole process.

Almost voted for Nader last time, but voted for Gore (not that it mattered in this state). Then the depression set in.

I liked Dean....but now I don't know what to do.

Except give them all hell for this shambles they've created!

[Qutzupalotl]

19. You know, this ad is giving more publicity to MoveON.

Be funny if MoveON suddenly got thousands of new members because of this.

[JohnnyFianna1]

21. Ohwell

Why don't we accuse any site to right of Democracy Underground of Being radical?

[Qutzupalotl]

22. Nah.

Too many.

[LiberalFighter]

48. I wouldn't doubt it...

Just like the meetups for Dean they brought out people that were never active before. Letting the people know about the forums available to participate is important.

Everyone here should be involved in their local Democratic Party.

In addition, everyone should invite all those of like minds or show interest to attend local Democratic Party events. Arrange for social functions that will be entertaining as well as educational.

Check out "99 Ways to Make a Difference".

Original Source: Pennsylvania Democratic Party

[Toucano]

24. Here's their pathetic ad.

I'm glad they are "Leading the virtual march from the right!"

If they're marching from the right, they must be going left, eh?

I also like how they say "troop-demoralizing". LOL! :)

They'd rather be troop-killing and troop-maming.

[Cooley Hurd]

28. They got all the lefty bugaboos on their poster!

Nancy Pelosi! (Gasp!)

Al Gore (Eek!)

Teddy Kennedy! (Shriek!)

HILLARY CLINTON!! (AAAAAAAAAARGH!)

Pretty lame-o. :eyes:

[LiberalFighter]

50. This is who they say they are and their goal.

RightMarch.com is an umbrella website for many conservative organizations, as well as thousands of hardworking, patriotic Americans across the country. Our goal is to counter the well-financed antics of radical left-wing groups like MoveOn.org, by appealing to the grassroots "silent majority" to take action -- contacting government and business leaders; placing newspaper, radio and television ads; and holding the Left accountable for their anti-American antics.

They operate out of Buford, GA

http://www.rightmarch.com/1/index.php

[0007]

26. Jim Lehrer's News Hour on PBS just ran moveon.org ad

the one showing the children working off the one trillion dollars debt.

I love it!

[Cooley Hurd]

27. Woooo! A full page ad in the Moonie Times...

...that'll get 'em fired up! Looks like we won't see any new moonie members at the Moveon meetups.:D

[demdave]

31. I have a question about censure.....

From what I understand, the House has no framework for censuring a president. I think the Senate has a method for this though. How would it work to get the censure through the House?

[Chovexani]

32. Interesting question

Interesting question, but a quick Google search doesn't really provide many solid answers. It appears that the House only has formal rules for censuring its own members (source: http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:ZhbZtZjTyx8J:www.house.gov/rules/rl31382.pdf+house+censure&hl=en&ie=UTF-8).

But I also turned up some interesting articles from the Witch Hunt of 1998 which suggest the House could theoretically censure the President--there's nothing in the Constitution prohibiting such an action:


Is censure a constitutional possibility?
By Charles Bierbauer/CNN
December 18, 1998
Web posted at: 3:04 p.m. EST (2004 GMT)


WASHINGTON (December 18, 1998) -- House Democrats continue to push for a censure of President Bill Clinton rather than impeachment, but the question remains, can the House of Representatives censure a president?

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Some say yes. Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Texas), a member of the House Judiciary Committee, has argued for censure saying, "There is no prohibition on censure in the Constitution."

Some say no. House Speaker-elect Bob Livingston (R-Louisiana) said, "The only way the Constitution envisions for him to face the charges is to face articles of impeachment which would be tried by the Senate."

<snip>

The word censure is nowhere to be found in the Constitution. The closest it comes is Article I, Section 5, which says, " Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behavior, and, with the Concurrence of two thirds, expel a Member."

In the past, the Constitution has not kept either House from finding the words to criticize a president.

Andrew Jackson faced a Senate censure over bank charters in 1836. John Tyler received a House rebuke for excessive use of Veto powers in 1842. James Polk faced a House chastisement for starting the war with Mexico in 1848 and James Buchanan received a House reproof over Navy contracts in 1860.

In 1864, even Abraham Lincoln was condemned by the Senate for allowing a congressman to hold an Army commission.

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1998/12/18/censure.bierbauer/

I will go looking for more info.

--Chovexani

[chasqui]

40. Wow. I actually remember reading that article

Wow!
Wow!

[Chovexani]

41. Dontcha love the Internet?

:)

[Democat]

34. This is good - Bush is on the defensive

Bush has his shadow groups spending money to defend him.

[pinto]

37. let's take it to 'em, don't denounce the messenger, necessarily, but

let them know they are WRONG.

Bush went to war on an idealogical premise, that Saddam's fall would create a domino effect of some sort of democracy in the Middle East. That premise looks increasingly flawed.

Bush did not go to war in Iraq to bring the 9/11 perps to justice. Saddam did not attack the WTC or the Pentagon.

Bush has repeatedly changed the rationalization for the Iraq attack, as one after another has failed the "truth" test.

Bush has repeatedly changed the markers for "success" in the Iraq attack, as real world events have implied "failure".

Bush had no plan for post Saddam Iraq.

Bush did NOT provide Congress with all the source intel applied in the decision to attack Iraq, there was a rogue intelligence operation which worked outside of Congressional review (mention OPS).

[enki23]

38. er... the bush administration has said they *haven't* found such things

so rightmarch.com is calling bush a liar?

(and dear god, do you think any of them notice the fascist *sound* of that silly name)

[NickB79]

42. Can anyone comment on that Washington Times citation?

WTF is that? I never heard of this, has anyone else? I'd think it would be big news if we found actual chemical and biological weapons stockpiles, wouldn't you? Where did they get the quote that Iraq was reconstituting their nuclear-bomb research? They were decades away at best! Anyone know what the hell they're talking about?

[ibegurpard]

44. Yeah...hello???

That is the thing that LEAPT out at me and yet no one is saying much about it.

[Thoth]

43. "Reich-March" is more like it...

[trumad]

45. Followers of er...Reverend Moon!

[ibegurpard]

46. I don't like the picture that "march" paints for me

when I see the name "RightMarch." It makes me think of long lines of saluting stormtroopers.

[banana republican]

47. Reich March????

[truthisfreedom]

49. heh. their name alone shows their fascist underpinnings. reichmarch.