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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 12:10 PM
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War may grind on like Vietnam
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/02/29/1077989432268.html?from=storyrhs

<snip>A former US national security adviser who served in the administration of the first president George Bush, has warned that the war in Iraq threatens to grind on for years as the Vietnam conflict did.

"It could become a Vietnam in a way that the Vietnam war never did," Brent Scowcroft said in an interview published in a Portuguese weekly newspaper, Expresso.

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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 12:21 PM
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1. Scowcroft is SCUM!!
Edited on Sun Feb-29-04 12:23 PM by liberalnproud
This article is very telling. It seems to me there is some squabbling going on at BFEE Inc.

http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Brent_Scowcroft

Brent Scowcroft

Brent Scowcroft is President and Founder (June 1994) of the Scowcroft Group/Scowcroft Group and "one of the country's leading experts on international policy." Scowcroft provides "Group clients with unparalleled strategic advise and assistance in dealing in the international arena."<1>

Scowcroft is also the founder and "president of the Forum for International Policy, a non-profit organization that he founded in 1993 that promotes American leadership and foreign policy."<2>

Scowcroft served as National Security Advisor to both Presidents Gerald R. Ford and George Herbert Walker Bush. He was Vice Chairman of Kissinger Associates, Inc. (1982-1989), an international consulting firm. "In this capacity, he advised and assisted a wide range of U.S. and foreign corporate leaders on global joint venture opportunities, strategic planning and risk assessment."<3>

Scowcroft's prior 29-year "military career began with graduation from West Point and concluded at the rank of Lieutenant General following service as the Deputy National Security Advisor. His Air Force service included Professor of Russian History at West Point; Assistant Air Attache in Belgrade, Yugoslavia; Head of the Political Science Department at the Air Force Academy; Air Force Long Range Plans, Office of the Secretary of Defense International Security Assistance, Special Assistant to the Director of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and Military Assistant to President Richard M. Nixon. Out of uniform he continued in a public policy capacity by serving on the President's Advisory Committee on Arms Control, the Commission on Strategic Forces and the President's Special Review Board, also known as the Tower Board." He is also tied to the Iran/Contra scandal. <4>

He earned his B.S. degree from West Point and M.A. and Ph.D. degrees in International Relations from Columbia University.<5><6>

Affiliations


President, Forum for International Policy
Chairman, President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board
Chairman, Pacific Forum at Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS)
Chairman, American-Turkish Council
Chairman, Presidential Library Foundation of George Herbert Walker Bush
Diretor, Pennzoil-Quaker State
Director, Qualcomm/Qualcomm (since 1994)
Director, American Council on Germany
Board Member, Gerald R. Ford Foundation
Board Member, George C. Marshall Foundation
Board Member, Center for Strategic and International Studies
Board Member, Atlantic Council of the United States
Board Member, International Republican Institute
Board Member, National Defense University
Member, Council on Foreign Relations
Member, Atlantic Institute
Advisory Council, American Ditchley Foundation
Advisory Board, School of International and Public Affairs at Columbia University
Advisory Board, OILspace
Honorary Advisor, US-Azerbaijan Chamber of Commerce
Honorary Advisor, National Committee on United States-China Relations' Young Leaders Forum.

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From Keppler Associates, Inc.'s Web Page on Brent Scowcroft:
"Few men in modern times have the combination of experience and expertise in foreign policy and national security affairs to match that of General Brent Scowcroft. He has served five presidents and is the only person to have served two PresidentsGerald Ford and George Bushas National Security Advisor. With the end of the Cold War and the collapse of the Soviet Union, it was Scowcroft who coined the term New World Order. One of the countrys leading experts on international policy, and co-author of A World Transformed, he continues to provide unparalleled strategic advise and assistance to those in the international arena. He currently serves on numerous corporate and non-profit boards."

Biography

"Lieutenant General Brent Scowcroft, USAF (Ret.), is the founder and President of The Forum for International Policy, a non-partisan, non-profit organization providing independent perspectives and opinions on major foreign policy issues, based on a commitment to active, thoughtful American global leadership. He is also President of The Scowcroft Group, Inc., an international business consulting firm.

"General Scowcroft served as Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs to Presidents Ford and Bush. He also served as Military Assistant to President Nixon and as Deputy Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs to Presidents Ford and Nixon. Prior to joining the Bush Administration, General Scowcroft was Vice Chairman of Kissinger Associates, Inc."

"In the course of his military career, General Scowcroft has held positions in the Organization of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Headquarters of the U.S. Air Force, and the Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs. Other assignments included faculty positions at the U. S. Air Force Academy and the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, and Assistant Air Attache in the American Embassy in Belgrade, Yugoslavia.

"General Scowcroft has chaired or served on a number of policy advisory councils, including the President's General Advisory Committee on Arms Control, the President's Commission on Strategic Forces, the President's Blue Ribbon Commission on Defense Management, the Defense Policy Board, and the President's Special Review Board (Tower Board) investigating the Iran-Contra affair."

"General Scowcroft had an aeronautical rating as a pilot and has numerous military decorations and awards. In addition, President Bush presented him with the Medal of Freedom Award in 1991. In 1993, he was presented with the insignia of an Honorary Knight of the British Empire (K.B.E.) by Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth at Buckingham Palace.

"General Scowcroft was born in Ogden, Utah. He received his undergraduate degree and commission into the Army Air Forces from the U.S. Military Academy at West Point. He has an M.A. and Ph.D. from Columbia University."


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Other Related Disinfopedia Resources

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External Links

Center for Strategic and International Studies biography.
OILspace biography.
Congressional Record, House of Representatives, April 28, 1992, re Scowcroft on the Banca Nazionale del Lavoro and Iraq Scandal.



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truthseeker1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 09:39 PM
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6. Has anyone ever noticed
Lila Garrett (on KPFK Mondays at 7AM) always calls him Brent "Snowcroft?" I don't know if it's intentiontal. Gotta love Lila, but she should get it right!
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 10:22 PM
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7. The point is still valid, the occupation of Iraq will continue...
The point is still valid, the occupation of Iraq will continue regardless of who gets elected in November. Bush will not bring the troops home and neither will Kerry according to his own statement during the CNN debate last week.

Iraqization looks line a clone of Nixon's Vietnamization.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 04:08 PM
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2. Scowcroft is a professional
Edited on Sun Feb-29-04 04:20 PM by teryang
I don't agree with his politics and I never liked his policies. He is a professional hatchet man, a trained killer and violator of the Constitution along with the rest of the BFEE. He's one of these career soldiers who believes that its ok to violate the law in order to save it.

But he knows a losing proposition when he sees one. Taking his comments in the worst possible light, maybe he is setting the stage for a great Chimp vindication, like the capture of OBL.

I can hear it now: "People said we neglected the war on terror. People said we couldn't do both, defeat Saddam and the weapons of mass destruction and fight the war on terror. But we persevered and we smoked em both out to their holes. And I'm the big hero."

I don't think Scowcroft can shake off his Army training. This is a defense contractor free for all and the costs to the armed forces are enormous but they are being ignored. Force readiness, force training, and manpower reserves are being wasted on a non-essential, poorly defined and ulitimately unattainable mission. Young people are avoiding recruitment like the plague and re-enlistment bonuses are being ignored. There is a lot of anti-military sentiment among the nations talented young people. Any restoration of sovereignty in Iraq will result in an anti American country.

The materialists in the administration simply don't care about these costs and can't imagine any situation in which they will result in near catastrophic military and diplomatic failures. I can think of several.
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Devil Dog Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 05:43 PM
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3. Scowcroft was Air Force, not Army.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:55 AM
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5. Thank you!
I mistook his demeanor for an Army man and made an assumption without even thinking.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 10:23 PM
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8. He did graduate West Point '47, thus the confusion... I believe
graduates that year had the choice of Army or AF, since that was the year it was separated from the Army.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 05:53 PM
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4. Scowcraft spoke out against this war before it began
It was speculated at the time that he was Poppy's mouthpiece, trying to get a message to Junior.
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