Family dead in Novi Murder suicide

[sarcasmo]

Source: Detroit news

A husband, facing a failed business and more than $580,000 in debt, allegedly killed his wife and two young sons Friday, then drove a few miles away and killed himself in his car, police said.

Officers found the bodies of Jennifer Schons, 38, and her sons, Tynan, 6, and Camden, 4, around 11:30 a.m. Friday, each in separate bedrooms of their secluded Novi home on Applebrooke Drive near Nine Mile and Napier roads. About three hours later, police found Mark Schons, 39, dead in his GMC Acadia parked in a department store parking lot off Milford Road and Interstate 96.

From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20110115/METRO02/101150359/Family-dead-in-Novi-murder-suicide#ixzz1B74mlAZW


Read more: http://detroitnews.com/article/20110115/METRO02/101150359/Family-dead-in-Novi-murder-suicide

[MicaelS]

1. "Sigh".. another family annihilator n/t

[sarcasmo]

2. I never understand these situation. Are they afraid to be without? or perhaps have never been

without.

[Xipe Totec]

3. It's arrogance - believing the family can't possibly go on without him nt

[PassingFair]

6. I think she probably tried to leave him.

One of the articles mentioned they were
"talking divorce", and the neighbor said
she had been "counseling" the wife.

[Atypical Liberal]

10. I don't think so.

It's arrogance - believing the family can't possibly go on without him nt

I don't think so. I submit that it is shame that drives men to do this. Men have been told from birth that they are responsible for providing for their families. Sure, in modern times there are exceptions to this rule, but by and large men are still the primary breadwinners for families and that is still the expected social norm.

When you take a man with a lifetime of conditioning that says he is a failure if he can't provide for his family, and then put him in a situation where he can't provide for his family, some of these people can't take the shame. They can't take the shame of facing their families, and they can't take the shame of how they think society will perceive them.

I knew a guy once who lost his job. Instead of telling his wife, he got up every morning and pretended to go to work, and every payday he withdrew some money from his savings to look like a paycheck. This went on for some time until one day his wife came home early from her job and caught him at home. By this time he had seriously depleted their savings. He did this because he could not stand the shame of admitting he lost his job.

Now personally, I cannot fathom either response. I am the sole provider for my family. If I lost my job, or we hit some other financial catastrophe, I would be doing anything and everything to continue to support my family. I'd beg, borrow, or steal. I have would no pride when it comes to providing for my family if that is what it came down to.

But some people can't take it. They snap. They've been programmed so hard to an obligation provide that when they fail in that obligation they can't stand the shame.

[DeSwiss]

13. +1

[Raine]

21. Totally agree nt

[jody]

4. Sad tragedy but highlights the risk an entrepreneur takes in starting and operating a business that

provides jobs to those demanding government reduce unemployment.

Schons’ party supply store failed and the story suggests that was a factor in the deaths.

Related incidents, “More than 17,368 Indian farmers reportedly killed themselves in 2009, . . . Nearly all of the bereaved families of those who have committed suicide reportedly had problems with debt and land loss due to failing crops.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/11/india-farmers-commiting-s_n_807621.html

[PassingFair]

5. Followed a google link and found this website: "The Daily Pitchfork"

http://thedisbrimstonedailypitchfork.wordpress.com/


Hell's Newspaper.

They have an article on this case,
but read on to their expose on the
Arizona shootings.

[Bette Noir]

7. Thanks for the link. That's an interesting newspaper.

[PassingFair]

8. It IS very cool.

Bookmarked.

:hi:

[canetoad]

12. Hey, PassingFair

You got a shout out and thanks on the site
http://thedisbrimstonedailypitchfork.wordpress.com/2011/01/15/a-thousand-thanks-to-passing-fair-at-the-democratic-underground-for-the-links/

[PassingFair]

15. !

I was very impressed with the content and layout of
the site!

I hope the DUer who created it will PM me, so I
know who it is.....

[WhiteTara]

9. it's terribly sad when people put all their identity

in what they have and what they own.

[RayStar]

11. Shame on him

This is such a sad case and so close to home for me.

[WhiteTara]

18. I don't think there is shame, it seemed to me

to be despair. I am sorry that type of tragedy has touched your life.
:hug:

[Atypical Liberal]

14. It's not just materialism.

Society has created an expectation for men that they are supposed to support their families. When they fail at this (this fellow was half-a-million dollars in debt and his business was failing), rich or poor, they are under incredible pressure for having failed in their society-expected, and often family-expected role as provider for their family.

Some men just can't take the shame of having failed. They are ashamed of what their families will think of them, and what society will think of them. And some snap.

[PassingFair]

17. His wife was making $90,000 a year and he was employed as well...

the business debt could have been dumped in bankruptcy.

Something else was going on here, I bet the wife
was going to leave him and this was his way of
stopping her.

[WhiteTara]

20. Could be. Another failure. Too much

and he killed them all. It happens all too frequently.

[WhiteTara]

19. I agree the pressures are tremedous

for both women and men. I saw another post where she made $90k a year...for 1/2 mil of debt that would be nothing. The pain in the household must have been overwhelming. I hope that this turning will allow people to see themselves as human beings, not human doings.

[LiberalEsto]

16. This is the second death by grill I've seen today

The other one was the woman from Quincy, Mass. who lit a grill in her apartment and killed her son and almost killed herself.

I hope this isn't some new trend.