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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 07:36 PM
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Harrier fleet sold to US military
Source: The Guardian

The UK's biggest military projects are more than 6bn over budget, and are suffering from further delays despite attempts to bring them under stricter control, according to the government spending watchdog.

The National Audit Office report also states that the UK faces a potential shortage of attack submarines because of cost-cutting decisions taken in last year's strategic defence and security review.

In a 70-page study, the NAO says the total cost of 15 equipment programmes has reached 59.6bn, and that on average they will be 30 months late into service. The watchdog says the MoD is still reeling from mistakes made more than a decade ago, but concedes that the department is slowly bringing things under control.

Margaret Hodge, the chair of the public accounts committee, described the overspend as "shocking", and said that "delaying projects and reducing what they deliver is not a sensible way to invest in defence".

Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/nov/16/harrier-fleet-sold-us-military
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 07:45 PM
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1. Those boys must have learned their trade
in the U.S.A.
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Lurks Often Donating Member (505 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 07:58 PM
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2. The UK got rid of it's last jump jet carrier
and has no use for the Harrier. The Marines are still using the Harrier until/if the JSF variant designed for the Marines use is delivered.

As an aside, the UK and France are working together to design and build one or more carriers in the 50,000 ton range to operate aircraft, the UK the JSF and the French probably the Rafele.
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Angleae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 08:00 AM
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7. They still have one of the carriers, HMS Illustrious
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Lurks Often Donating Member (505 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 10:58 AM
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8. Which is being used to carry helicopters only nt
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Angleae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 06:11 PM
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9. They plan on retiring her when HMS Ocean finishes her refit.
Sometime around 2014.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 06:20 PM
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10. There are currently two carriers under construction for the Royal Navy
HMS Queen Elizabeth and HMS Prince of Wales, which won't enter service until 2017-2018 (and the last I saw they're planning to move from V/STOL to CATOBAR variants of the F35).
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Angleae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 05:55 AM
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11. HMS Queen Elizabeth is not expected to enter service until 2020 at earliest.
HMS Prince of Wales in 2023 and Yes they have moved to CATOBAR.
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TexasProgresive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 08:06 PM
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3. Not your fault but
that headline has nothing to do with the (whole) following story. The only mention of the Harriers is in the headline and a picture and caption.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 09:03 PM
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4. Leave it to the British
to invent an airplane that curtsies.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 09:27 PM
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5. Wow
Caught me off guard with that one :rofl:
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 07:00 AM
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6. That came from the marketing department as a sure fire way ...
> Leave it to the British
> to invent an airplane that curtsies

... to sell it to the US military!

:P
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