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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 10:39 PM
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Debate Highlights G.O.P.s Lack of a Unified Security Vision
Source: NYT

The Republican presidential candidates placed in sharp relief on Tuesday night their partys lack of a single national security vision a decade after the Sept. 11 attacks, differing over the pace of withdrawal from Afghanistan, aid to Pakistan and what to do with illegal immigrants already in the United States.

In a debate that went deep into foreign policy issues but did little to alter the basic contours of the battle for the Republican presidential nomination, the candidates by and large struck a hawkish tone in dealing with Iran and protecting the United States from terrorist attacks.

But under questioning from Wolf Blitzer of CNN and an array of conservative and neoconservative officials from past administrations now affiliated with the other sponsors the American Enterprise Institute and the Heritage Foundation the candidates engaged in a number of spirited debates among themselves.

Newt Gingrich, newly resurgent in polls, said he would support an Israeli strike against Iran, if only as a last recourse and only as a step toward replacing the regime.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/23/us/politics/security-and-foreign-policies-dominate-republican-debate.html?pagewanted=all
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 10:44 PM
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1. lightweights nt
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SharksBreath Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 10:49 PM
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2. I was wondering why all those traitors were in the audience
Edited on Tue Nov-22-11 10:54 PM by SharksBreath
asking questions instead of serving hard prison time for crimes against the United States of America.

The Heritage foundation and AEI haven't been right about a foreign policy issue in forever.

They have no shame. How dare they ask questions about the cost of their own failed fucking polices.

WTF.
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Little Tich Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 11:15 PM
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3. Interesting debate. Actually, most of the candidates did surprisingly well,
except for Herman Cain of course.
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chollybocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 12:49 AM
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4. Yes, "interesting," just like Stanley Kubricks 'Dr. Strangelove.'
Which did "surprisingly well" at the box office. You should gotten it by now.
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Little Tich Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 03:48 AM
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8. They did surprisingly well for being in the GOP candidate clown car, hehe.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 08:43 AM
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13. Really....What did you agree with them on?
:shrug: I can not think of a single time in our nation's history when Republicans have been correct about foreign policy issues..
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Grassy Knoll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 12:51 AM
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5. Obama Will Clean Any one of their clocks.......
Non of them know what they speak, Only that " War" is the answer.
When was the last time a newly elected Repig prez didn't start a war
only to blame it on democrats for not cleaning up their mess ?
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Philosopher King Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 05:22 AM
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9. Obama seems to be quite the war Prez as well.
It will be interesting to see how long he holds out before engaging Syria.
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 08:14 AM
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11. Looks like a big FAIL.
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Philosopher King Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 08:42 AM
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12. *
:)
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 01:21 AM
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6.  Lack of a Unified Security Vision
Edited on Wed Nov-23-11 01:22 AM by AlbertCat
Goes with the lack of anyone qualified to run anything.

As I used to say about the Bush Jr. team members....

Would you let any of these people:

Watch your kids while you were on vacation?
Watch your pets?
Water you plants?

Any of them?
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 03:29 AM
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7. And they're touting Gingrich as the "smart" one.
Iran has something like 77 million people. Israel is going to cause regime change in Iran? Hell,
even the United States couldn't cause regime change in Iran. Only Iranians will cause regime
change in Iran, just like last time, in 1979.

Fortunately, I doubt that Gingrich will have anything to do with any regime changes anywhere,
including in the United States in 2012.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 08:06 AM
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10. My Security Plan: Keep Republicon Chickenhawks out of office
Edited on Wed Nov-23-11 08:07 AM by SpiralHawk
LIHOP

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