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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 08:15 AM
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Occupy Toronto siege weakening
Source: Toronto Sun

TORONTO - The Occupy Toronto siege of St. James Park was showing signs of weakening Tuesday morning.

"The unions have pulled their support," said Borland. "They're taking their yurts back. That's a sign for us to leave peacefully."

Throughout the day, more and more signs of a weakening occupation popped up.

The "sacred fire" in the native's tent was finally put out Tuesday. All the Mohawk flags had been taken down, as well as some of the barricade. Its native inhabitants were nowhere to be found.

Read more: http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/canada/archives/2011/11/20111122-135756.html



I find the comments about union support interesting. How widespread is union support for OWS in America?
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2pooped2pop Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 08:48 AM
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1. they seem to have the support of many unions
teachers union
uaw
steelworkers
dockworkers
teamsters

Probably many more. However, the unions will withdraw their support if the basic ideas were to swing too far ,or do something like promote violence, or actions that would harm people rather than help them. Perhaps the union support in Toronto felt it was time to move to other tactics.

I would hate to lose union support, but Occupy will go on even if that were to happen.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 09:10 AM
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2. not weakening, but more likely, winter setting in.
the truly dedicated are staying.

winter camping is hard enough, occupying an open area with zero support from the local officials is even worse.

the coming occupy spring will be far bigger than I believe anyone here or elsewhere can imagine.
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Dutchmaster Donating Member (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 09:28 AM
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3. yeah I was out jogging last night
and froze my ass off, and it isn't even really that cold here in the midwest yet. I was thinking that the occupation part of ows will likely slow down this winter, but it will definitely be an American spring. the trick is going to be keeping the momentum going through the winter in other ways.
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 10:10 AM
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4. A friend spent the winter of '52-'53 in a trench in Korea
So outdoor camping through the winter is definitely possible, particularly since equipment is greatly improved since then.
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Ship of Fools Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 10:28 AM
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5. I agree with your post. Hopefully *they* will not have pulled the plug
on the Internet by spring. Of course if they were to do so, Occupy will probably explode
in numbers in ALL weather in ALL regions of the country. Let's see the bastards try to take
on *piracy* issues ... :)
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