Republican response to Moveon.org I think this is a sign of things to come

[TheReligiousLeft]

Do any of you know about this site <http://www.grassfire.org/> I watched some of their anti-Moveon ads. They claimed that Saddam was an evil dictator and by Moveon.org criticizing the resident we are a danger to American security. It was ugly, very anti-free-speech. I'm guessing this is what '04 is going to shape up like, a hell of a lot of reactionary anger. At any rate I'm wondering who owns the site. It is said know thy enemy, well, I've seen his face and it is grassfire.org.
Anyone have any comments on the site? Any easy ways to combat their message? Any hard ways?

[ixion]

1. read this

it will explain exactly where they are coming from. :scared:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5646.htm

[DODI]

4. I can't read it -- too scary. My dad is one of them!!!

[PaDUer]

7. What?

What's he been up to?

[DODI]

13. About 10 years ago he found Christ.

I didn't know Christ was missing, but go figure. He has spiraled down the dark "Christian" path into the whole Armageddon thing, men are by nature evil, Christian war is good, blah, blah, blah. We haven't spoken since the war began. He was unhappy that my sister and I were going to peace rallies -- very unchristian of us!

[Arugula Latte]

20. Did your Dad retrace his steps?

And there Christ was, up on the counter with the mail, where he'd set him down for just a minute when the phone rang... ;-)

[rhino47]

9. ok im afraid .. really afraid.

Nothing scares me more then zealots.Well unless they are elected zealots. :scared:

[mr_hat]

11. Jeez, that's some kinda scary. I'm among the evil >

in their eyes, without doubt.

[JaySherman]

12. Kick for a must-read

Thanks for posting ixion.

[right is wrong]

2. site owner

Registrant Name:Steve Elliott
Registrant Organization:TheElliottGroup
Registrant Street1:2449BroadnaxCircle
Registrant City:Chesapeake
Registrant State/Province:VA
Registrant Postal Code:23323
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:[phone]
Registrant Email:[e-mail]

[porkrind]

19. "The Elliott Group" ???

Thought it read "Carlyle" (sp?) for a second there... ;)

[PaDUer]

3. here u go...

Domain ID:D34547252-LROR
Domain Name:GRASSFIRE.ORG
Created On:13-Sep-2000 09:19:49 UTC
Last Updated On:19-Oct-2003 03:06:15 UTC
Expiration Date:13-Sep-2004 09:19:49 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:R71-LROR
Status:OK
Registrant ID:C10948398-RCOM
Registrant Name:Steve Elliott
Registrant Organization:TheElliottGroup
Registrant Street1:2449BroadnaxCircle
Registrant City:Chesapeake
Registrant State/Province:VA
Registrant Postal Code:23323
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:[phone]
Registrant Email:[e-mail]
Admin ID:C23718876-RCOM
Admin Name:S M
Admin Organization:grassfire.net
Admin Street1:pobox6852
Admin City:Chesapeake
Admin State/Province:VA
Admin Postal Code:23323
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:[phone]
Admin Email:[e-mail]
Tech ID:C23718878-RCOM
Tech Name:S M
Tech Organization:grassfire.net
Tech Street1:pobox6852
Tech City:Chesapeake
Tech State/Province:VA
Tech Postal Code:23323
Tech Country:US

[PaDUer]

6. how interesting..

Elliott Marketing Group - http://theelliottgroup.net/
Specializing in motorsports including NASCAR, Unlimitied Hydroplanes, Indy Cars, Formula One. Features marketing resources, event sponsorship,hospitality programs, website development and hosting. Based in Charlotte, North Carolina.

http://directory.google.com/Top/Business/Arts_and_Entertainment/Sports/Marketing_and_Advertising/

[kainah]

5. check the domain name with "whois" registry

http://www.internic.net/whois.html

Results for grassfire.org:

(Results flagged as "NOT AUTHORITATIVE" should be checked with the
registrar's whois server.)

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Domain ID:D34547252-LROR
Domain Name:GRASSFIRE.ORG
Created On:13-Sep-2000 09:19:49 UTC
Last Updated On:19-Oct-2003 03:06:15 UTC
Expiration Date:13-Sep-2004 09:19:49 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:R71-LROR
Status:OK
Registrant ID:C10948398-RCOM
Registrant Name:Steve Elliott
Registrant Organization:TheElliottGroup
Registrant Street1:2449BroadnaxCircle
Registrant City:Chesapeake
Registrant State/Province:VA
Registrant Postal Code:23323
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:[phone]
Registrant Email:[e-mail]
Admin ID:C23718876-RCOM
Admin Name:S M
Admin Organization:grassfire.net
Admin Street1:pobox6852
Admin City:Chesapeake
Admin State/Province:VA
Admin Postal Code:23323
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:[phone]
Admin Email:[e-mail]
Tech ID:C23718878-RCOM
Tech Name:S M
Tech Organization:grassfire.net
Tech Street1:pobox6852
Tech City:Chesapeake
Tech State/Province:VA
Tech Postal Code:23323
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:[phone]
Tech Email:[e-mail]
Name Server:DNS25.REGISTER.COM
Name Server:DNS26.REGISTER.COM

[TheReligiousLeft]

8. Cool, thanks all!

Now that we have the who how about thoughts about the site itself and ways (legal ways) to nullify it's effect?

[CityZen-X]

10. Welcome To The Terror dome

It is so fictionally dooms day, that the term fiction, becomes reality, is so profound!
We are X-Periencing the "Brave New World" and the "New World Order" all in one passage. Hold on to your hats people because, It's going to be one hellllllll of a ride!!

[SWPAdem]

14. Gee, I think I'll be sending them a hefty donation

of play money, along with a nasty letter.

[ermoore]

15. They "claimed" what?!!!

"They claimed that Saddam was an evil dictator"

You make it sound as though there's any doubt there. Not to defend the site, but it looks like they did at least get one thing right. That's something some people here seem to have a hard time doing.

And visiting the site just bumps up their traffic.

[BillZBubb]

18. Please clarify!

People here have a hard to getting at least one thing right? Am I understanding you correctly?

[TheReligiousLeft]

24. I guess I was emphesising

That because he was an evil dictator we are a national security risk, because we are undermining Bush's view of things.

[Gildor Inglorion]

16. Yuck...

I feel contaminated. These people mean business, and we're in their crosshairs. ;(

[alfredo]

17. I wonder if GrASSfire will use this image?

[Arugula Latte]

21. I prefer to think of Bush as

"God's own anal cyst."

[TheReligiousLeft]

23. I thought that was Rush

And it got God out of the war. (With all due respect to the Creator of the Universe). Oh wait, not it was an anal cyst that got Rush out of the war... Am I bad.

[ComerPerro]

22. Yeah, wait until dissenters are officially labled

as threats to security and as terrorists.