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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 09:47 PM
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CU Football-Promise Keepers and Misogynists
Edited on Wed Feb-18-04 09:53 PM by LiviaOlivia
The Denver Post
Promise Keepers worker says he won't quit inquiry
By Dave Curtin
http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36%7E30780%7E1962584,00.html
Wednesday, February 18, 2004 -

A Pentecostal bishop said he will not resign from an independent commission appointed by the University of Colorado regents despite the fact that he works for Promise Keepers, a religious organization founded by a former CU football coach.

The commission will investigate allegations that sex and alcohol are used to entice high school recruits.

"I've been told by the regents that there was concern (but that) the majority of the regents want to keep me. I can serve, and I intend to do that," said Bishop Phillip Porter, who still works for Promise Keepers, an evangelical Christian men's movement founded in 1990 by then- CU head coach Bill McCartney.

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Regina Cowles, president of the Boulder chapter of the National Organization for Women, said Tuesday that Porter's association with McCartney is "way too close for comfort.

"It's not right. It's a complete shock. To see his name arise out of this list (of recommended panelists) that included many qualified sexual-assault experts and not even one of them was even nominated is baffling."

She also is upset that Promise Keepers promotes narrowly defined gender roles, which Porter denied.

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http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36%7E30780%7E1964220,00.html

The Denver Post

CU president reprimands coach over Hnida comments
By Erin Emery
Denver Post Southern Colorado Bureau


Thursday, February 19, 2004 -

COLORADO SPRINGS - University of Colorado President Betsy Hoffman said today she reprimanded CU football coach Gary Barnett for criticizing former player Katie Hnida's athletic skills when he was asked about her allegations of rape and harassment while on the team.

Hoffman also said that one area to be investigated in the ongoing probe of alleged recruiting misdeeds at CU will be Barnett's claims that he was unaware of any wrongdoing.

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Hoffman, who was in Colorado Springs today to give a speech, said that Barnett's comments Tuesday to reporters about Hnida outraged her because Barnett essentially blamed the victim.

Hnida - a kicker and one of the first females ever to play for a major college football team - had told Sports Illustrated that she was harassed by her CU teammates and raped by one of them. She later left the school.

On Tuesday, when reporters asked about Hnida, Barnett said in part: "It was obvious that Katie was not very good. She was awful. You know what guys do - they respect your ability. Katie was a girl, and not only was she a girl, she was terrible. OK? There's no other way to say it. She couldn't kick the ball through the uprights."

Today, Hoffman said: "I was deeply disturbed by the comments coach Barnett made (Tuesday), focusing more on her kicking ability than on the message at hand, which is that we really need to address the sexual assault."

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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 09:59 PM
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1. now uc football
can join iowa`s basketball program as the two known scummiest athletic programs the the country.
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 10:34 PM
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3. Nah, there's still Miami
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 10:37 PM
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4. fill me in on Iowa's scummy basketball program
I don't know the details.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 01:42 AM
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8. Excuse me?
Just like anything else here if you make an accusation like that be prepared to back it up.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 08:08 PM
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15. yeah, just what the hell is the story on Iowa?
I haven't heard anything.
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walkon Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 10:06 PM
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2. Does Barnett have a clue?
He seems to be endorsing the "harassment" if not the rape. Three rape allegations, sex parties for recruits and he's saying the girl couldn't kick the ball through the uprights. This is ghastly.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 10:44 PM
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5. I've hated CU since the lionization of a QB that died.
Soaked in piety they wouldn't shut up about the kid the entire season. Before his death he knocked up the coach's daughter, the coach is the guy that went on to found Promise Keepers.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 10:49 PM
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6. Promise Keepers??
Don't they believe that women are subservient to the man? Wouldn't that also include that rape is acceptable?
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 12:54 AM
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7. In that mentality
anyone who gets raped somehow deserves it. She shouldn't have been drinking, she shouldn't have gone to a party with athletes, she shouldn't have led the guy on. You know the lines.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 09:18 AM
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11. Hell, we all know the answer, EVERYONE DOES IT
by that thinking, its alright
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Adams Wulff Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 01:52 AM
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9. Tonight, CU football coach Gary Barnett was placed on administrative leave
with pay until the investigation is complete. The investigation is expected to last until April 30, 2004.
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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 02:27 AM
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10. It's about time
http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~30780~1964220,00.html#

The Denver Post
Angry CU president puts Barnett on leave
By Erin Emery and Jim Hughes
Denver Post Staff Writers


Wednesday, February 18, 2004 -

COLORADO SPRINGS - University of Colorado president Betsy Hoffman put football coach Gary Barnett on administrative leave with pay tonight, after more details of a new allegation of sexual assault involving his program came to light.

“We are utterly distressed over the information in that report,” Hoffman said tonight in Denver, referring to a police report filed in 2001.

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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 09:19 AM
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12. Fire the dude!
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Scairp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 09:21 AM
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13. Ditto/nt
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 09:29 AM
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14. When a woman steps out of place
Edited on Thu Feb-19-04 09:30 AM by Mari333
she is a target. Ive met PK people, and the men put the women on a faulty pedestal, but if they step out of line, they are considered fair game.
My ex brother in law cut the phone cord on my sisters computer when she told him she was on the Internet. He told her it was for her own good. He didnt like the fact she was learning about Bushadmin and she didnt care to vote for Bush again.
She left him. Now shes at a food pantry for food with 3 kids at home, and possibly going to lose her house.
Its a major control issue scenario.
This guy needs a good ass whuppin by the president of the college and Im glad his kind are being shown for who they really are.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 08:19 PM
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16. Absolutely sickening.
Edited on Thu Feb-19-04 08:20 PM by bushwentawol
The PK crap I've gone through makes a big deal about the woman sumitting to the man. I hope your sister makes it through this time ok. She's much better off without this idolater.

Where in the world does it say that one has to pray in a stadium in order to be a Christian? In fact the Bible says something quite different:

Matthew 6:5-7 "And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites : for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.


But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.


But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen : for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking."
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