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Arbustosux Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 02:39 PM
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I am so sick of hearing: "Bush is a strong leader"
take for example this latest blurb on polling on ABC:

While this poll underscores Bush's vulnerabilities, he does retain his core strengths — broad approval for handling the war on terrorism and an image as a strong leader. And while most Americans believe his administration intentionally exaggerated evidence of Iraq's weapons of mass destructions, far fewer (21 percent) think it outright lied. Indeed, two-thirds think the administration honestly believed Iraq did possess these weapons. Most also continue to say the war has contributed to the long-term security of the United States.


Ken Lay was a strong leader, so was Dennis Kozlowski, so was Adolph Hitler...

What is the point? You can be a great leader and evil as all of hell!!!!
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 02:43 PM
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1. 'exaggerated evidence' and 'lied' are about the same..
Edited on Thu Feb-19-04 02:45 PM by amen1234

one term is more polite than the other, that's all...some people are hesitant, still respecting the OFFICE of the President, to call him a liar....

and indeed, two-thirds think that bush* is psychotic, and ACTUALLY believes that saddam had WMD.....

yes, bush* is a strong leader....leading America right off a cliff...

and the newsmedia are complicit in all of it...
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 02:46 PM
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2. He's a non-leader.
Is there any doubt in anyones mind that he IS NOT calling the shots?
He's an inflatable suit that spews nonsensical rhetoric when you pull his string.
Cheney, Poppy, Rummy and the PNAC are running this country.
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Paranoid_Portlander Donating Member (823 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 02:49 PM
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4. Do his puppeteers exhibit strong leadership?
That's the question I would like to see in the polls.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 02:46 PM
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3. This actually is at the core of the problem Dems face these days
The right for numerous reasons has gained control of the message. Corporate media, DLC drives to the center, and a host of other actions have given the right the ability to control the message.

You cannot appear to be a strong leader chasing after people and asking for their approval. You need to stand up and state specifically what you stand for. The Dems of recent elections have specialized in seeking the undecided votes. They have abandoned their base and have nothing to draw anybody to them.

The right has specialized in leading with strong rhetoric and dismantling the government under the cover of subterfuge. As long as we do not stand up and champion something the Dems will not be seen as leaders.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 03:22 PM
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5. Well, they can't say "He's a popular leader" anymore.
Take the good news where you can find it!

:)
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 03:26 PM
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6. I suppose Hitler, Stallin, Mussolini and Mao were strong leaders too
as was Saddam Hussein, but being a strong leader does not equate with being a good president. It's certainly necessary to be a good president, but being a strong leader does not mean that one's policies are right for the country.
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