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bluedeminredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 03:39 PM
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Clinton and terrorism: need help
I'm looking for information on things President Clinton did to fight and prevent terrorism.
I've tried a search, but obviously I don't know how to go about doing it because I can't come up with any threads on measures President Clinton took to prevent terrorism and to go after Bin Laden. I've seen plenty of threads and posts about specific measures he took so I know they're here on DU somewhere - I just can't find them.
Can anyone direct me or provide links to information please?

I have a friendly relationship with my freeperish doctor who is a whiz at medicine, but sucks at remembering anything that happened during the Clinton administration - to him it was all bad. I'd love to put together a few facts on a bullet style email to send him because his comment the other day that Iraq was Clinton's fault because he "let bin Laden go" is just too much for me to let go.

If someone could direct me in the right direction, I'd really appreciate it. I don't need much, just some facts to refute his outrageous claims that Clinton did nothing about terrorism during his administration.

:dunce:



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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 03:44 PM
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1. Clinton debriefed Rice
Apparently, there's evidence that Clinton debriefed Condi Rice before he left office informing her of the Al Qaeda threat. If I had a moment, I'd provide the direct info, but I can't unfortunately. Perhaps it's a good google search though?
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JoePizz Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 03:46 PM
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2. I don't remember any links off the top of my head, but...
I seem to remember reading he had weekly cabinet meetings on the subject- especially about Osama- starting after the '93 bombing.

I also seem to remember him shooting a cruise missile or two at him during the Lewinsky scandal, which had all the republicans yelling "Wag the Dog!"

He also made sure any FISA requests were authorized on the basis that if the FBI thought it was important enough to ask, it better be granted.

He also had a fleet (the 6th I think, but don't quote me) on standby alert in case they found Osama or some of his organization.
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 03:47 PM
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3. Google: Hart-Rudman Commission
Bush dismantled this effort Clinton put out to stop terrorism. Probably because it would have been effective.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 03:52 PM
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4. Here's a couple of actions Clinton took...
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slippery_pete Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 03:52 PM
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5. read Franken's Lies:
Franken has a chapter speaking on exactly what you are talking about.

Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them: A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right by Al Franken

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leetrisck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 04:11 PM
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9. Agree - Franken's book is a very good source
and it is things we know, we just forget. He has them all pulled together in one place and it really helps.
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bluedeminredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 03:55 PM
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6. Thanks!
I'll start looking and see what I can pull together. Normally I let his diatribes roll off my back, but to blame Iraq on Clinton? I have to answer with something.

:mad:
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 03:57 PM
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7. Here's another source....
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 04:02 PM
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8. There's so much
But I'll address the "Clinton let bin Laden go" lie. This info is from Franken's "Lies" book.

The lie started with (and is perpetuated by) Sean Hannity. He says that a Pakistani-American named Mansoor Ijaz acted as a gobetween for the Sudan, carrying the offer to give the US bin Laden. Sandy Berger, National Security Advisor, met with Ijaz and pegged him as unreliable. Ijaz wanted the US to lift the sanctions placed on the Sudan (put there because of Sudanese support of terrorist groups)--interesting because Ijaz was an investor in Sudanese oil companies.

Berger talked to the Sudanese government to see if they were willing to give bin Laden up. They weren't. End of story.

Ijaz, however, now works for Fox News as foreign affairs analyst.

The WaPo, a year or two ago, had a long article about the transition from Clinton's to *'s NSA. In a nutshell, Berger told Rice that al Qaeda would be the most important issue to deal with. Rice ignored him. It's a great overview of the differences between Clinton's attention to terrorism and *'s.

Remind your doctor that it was Clinton who caught and convicted the first WTC bombers. It was Clinton who kept a sub in the Gulf with the specific mission to launch a cruise missile at bin Laden if we ever pinpointed his location (the sub was withdrawn by *).

And then remind him that it was * who allowed a private plane to pick up members of the bin Laden family around the US on 9/11--the ONLY non-military flight allowed that day. It was * who permitted an escape route from Afghanistan to Pakistan (Seymour Hersh, the New Yorker) that was likely used by bin Laden to get out of Afghanistan.

I'd better stop before this turns into a rant. Hope that helps.
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