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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 09:59 PM
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What does the law say about Hermaphrodites getting married?
Edited on Fri Feb-20-04 10:51 PM by Quixote1818
Marriage is defined as between a man and a woman but what if someone is born with both a penis and a vagina? What does the law say about them? It seems to me that because this happens in nature this is indisputable proof that nature is not perfect as people can be born with both sexual organs. So if people can be born with both sexual organs then why can't they be born with the soul or hormones that are not associated with there sexual organs? In other words have the physical appearance of one sex but the soul of the other. Chemicals cause Hermaphrodites to have both sex organs and chemicals (hormones) cause people to have different kinds of sexual attractions. It's easy for science to show that sexual orientation is not cut and dry just as the physical make up of hermaphrodites makes things anything but black and white. This in my opinion would force the law to have to reexamine what determines if a person is male or female. Is it physical anatomy or psychological chemistry? I think it's quite clear based on the natural occurrence of Hermaphrodites that sex is not determined by physical attributes but by body chemistry which is extremely complex. I wonder why the ACLU or lawyers have not argued for Gay marriage using the example of Hermaphrodites who could be described as both male and female throwing a wrench into the traditional way of determining marriage laws which don't address this. Anyone have any thoughts?
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koopie57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 10:10 PM
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1. In all actuality
I don't think the government has the right to know what is in or not in my panties.
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ariellyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 10:23 PM
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4. I don't want to know either...euuuuwwwwww

lol
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 10:34 PM
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6. I don't think it's disgusting at all it's obviousely natural and normal
but rare.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 10:11 PM
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2. good point
And what about those who have undergone sex change operations?

All this line of thinking shows how stupid the law is in the first place.
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 10:17 PM
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3. I've seen couple of TV where one had a sex change and
they were married. I think the courts officially declare them a man or women in their new sex.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 10:32 PM
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5. But many decide not to have an operation and to keep both organs.
What about them?
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justjones Donating Member (596 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 11:04 PM
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9. I think they are assigned a gender at birth.....
Not that I'm an expert after watching a couple of documentaries, but I think doctors assign them to a gender at birth according to what genitalia appears "dominant." Of course, there's the high likelihood that they get it wrong.

I'm not sure if "assigning" a gender is so much of a problem as physicians performing surgery according to this assignment. In fact, the medical profession has gotten it so wrong in the past that there are hermaphrodites who are largely against these surgeries, advocating that hermaphrodites have the right to choose their gender on their own. How that works on paper would be interesting to know.

But I'll betcha it's as regressive as any policy toward those who don't fit the stereotypical category of male or woman, and of course, hetero.

Oh, and there's a fictional book out about this very topic..... Middlesex by Jeffrey Eugenides. Once you get past all the family history in the book, it's pretty good.

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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 10:37 PM
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7. shouldn't be too hard to tell mail from female
sorry, that just cracked me up. I am the typo queen but THAT was really funny.

Now, telling male from female might be tricky sometimes.

I agree with the earlier poster that it is not the goverment's business what is in one's panties.

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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 10:46 PM
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8. But if you want to fight the law perhaps people shouldent be ashamed
Edited on Fri Feb-20-04 10:55 PM by Quixote1818
to say what's in there panties. I see it the other way around. What if people with big noses were considered freaks and didn't want the government to know what their nose looked like. That seems rediculous dosen't it? So if someone has a sexual organ that society is prejudice against then it's really society that has the problem.
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