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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 05:15 PM
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McDonald's jobs = Manufacturing jobs? So that's how they
get the manufacturing jobs category in a growth mode. OMG, that administration is sick. People will "eat it up".
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joanski01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 05:21 PM
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1. They discussed this on
Crossfire yesterday. Carville said bush's* job should be called a manufacturing job because he manufacturers Whoppers.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 05:44 PM
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3. that's a great line from Carville! thanks!
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chocolateeater Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 05:32 PM
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2. Sure they are manufacturing jobs,
Edited on Sat Feb-21-04 05:32 PM by Mflorence
they manufacture money for the Kroc family.:evilgrin:
I'm curious, are these just the jobs in the food processing plant(s) or are they really trying to include the restaurant jobs in this category.
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joanski01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 05:53 PM
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6. Yes, they are trying to
include the people who cook the hamburgers and put the lettuce and tomato on them.
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chocolateeater Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 07:02 PM
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10. Speaking as a former McDonalds employee,
I can safely say, that is pathetic. Coming from this administration though, I'm not surprised.:eyes: :shrug:
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 06:03 PM
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9. Well they do produce Freedom fries.
Go for it Bush! It is a good as any thing else he has come out with.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 05:48 PM
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4. What about taco manufacturing jobs?
Will those now go to Mexico under NAFTA?
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chocolateeater Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 05:51 PM
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5. MMMM, Yummy.
Fresh tacos all the way from Mexico.:evilgrin:
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 05:54 PM
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7. Transcript from yesterday's Lou Dobbs
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0402/20/ldt.00.html

(snip)

PETER VILES, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): What if you could solve the manufacturing crisis with the stroke of a pen, instantly create millions of new manufacturing jobs?

Well, behold, the future of American manufacturing. Now, the idea that flipping burgers is manufacturing would be funny if we weren't serious about it. White House economic adviser Greg Mankiw actually raised the idea in his report to Congress.

GREGORY MANKIW, CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL OF ECONOMIC ADVISERS: The definition of what constitutes manufacturing is far from clear. For example, when a fast-food restaurant sells a hamburger, is it providing a service or combining inputs to manufacture a product?

VILES: At the core of manufacturing is the idea of added value. And fast-food jobs don't add much value. If they did, they would pay better. So critics are suspicious of the administration's timing and motives in raising the issue during an election year, when its record on manufacturing jobs is so dismal.

ALAN TONELSON, U.S. BUSINESS & INDUSTRY COUNCIL: McDonald's is not something that just sprung up last week. It's been around for most of the post-World War II period. And to bring up the possibility that now we should start thinking about reclassifying fast-food preparation as manufacturing, it's just plain fishy.

VILES: Mankiw said it's important to have an accurate definition of manufacturing, in case the government decides to base policies on the definition, for example, tax cuts targeted to help manufacturers.

Now, oddly enough, the White House does not support the policy, but that's exactly what Democrats John Edwards and John Kerry are proposing.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

VILES: Now, none of this is to demean fast-food jobs. For many young Americans, they are a terrific first job or a part-time job, but nobody would argue they are equal to the manufacturing job that have helped build the American middle class -- Lou.

DOBBS: It almost makes one want to ask, are they really serious?

VILES: What exactly were they thinking?

DOBBS: Well, that's not the first time that question has been posed in the last week or two.

Peter Viles, thank you very much.
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citizen snips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 05:56 PM
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8. It is just a ploy.
to sound like Bush is making more manufacturing jobs than they are losing.
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eeyore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 07:06 PM
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11. Reaganesque
Ketchup is vegetable!!
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