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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 12:49 PM
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Scotland worried/angry over DU

http://www.sundayherald.com/40306

MoD lied over depleted uranium

Army advises troops in Iraq of health risk but insists Scottish firing range is safe, despite growing international concern

CLAIMS by the Ministry of Defence that depleted uranium (DU) is not a risk to life have been undermined by a Sunday Herald investigation that found the British army is telling soldiers in Iraq that it can cause ill-health.
The revelation has outraged the military, scientists and politicians. Studies have shown DU leads to cancers, birth defects, memory loss, damage to the immune system and neuro-psychotic disorders. But the MoD has claimed since the first Gulf war that DU does not pose a risk to health or the environment.

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The MoD had fired more than 6350 DU rounds into the Solway Firth from its testing range at Dundrennan by 1999. In the first Gulf war 320 tonnes of DU were used, in the second more than 1000 tonnes were used .

Locals in the Dundrennan area and their political leaders are angry that British troops are being warned about the risk of DU, while they are not.

-snip-

It has led to birth defects in the children of veterans and Iraqis and is believed to be the cause of the worrying number of anophthalmos cases babies born without eyes in Iraq. A study of veterans showed 67% had children with severe illnesses, missing eyes, blood infections, respiratory problems and fused fingers.
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67% ! sixty seven percent!

women the world over should be screaming non-stop about this.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 12:50 PM
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1. WOW you scared me
I thought you were referring to Democratic Underground(DU)
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 01:33 PM
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9. Same here.
I read the title and thought "How could we have pissed off Scotland?"

:shrug:
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Champion Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 01:46 PM
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11. It was that haggis thread from a few days ago
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 12:52 PM
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2. The regime has decreed that DU is safe

It provides substantial savings to America's defense industry, helping to increase revenues and keeping it an investor favorite.

Scotland must do whatever it takes to crack down on tinfoil hat conspiracy theories intended to incite anti-American sentiment or face severe punishment.
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Astarho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 05:54 PM
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12. So America's Defence Industry
is picking up where the English Defence industry left off.

Depleted Uranium: it's the Clearences for the 21st century.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 12:53 PM
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3. Why just the women?
Don't men have the capacity to care?
This is one helluva terrible story.
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 01:01 PM
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4. but it's women who bare these babies and it's mostly women who

raise these babies and it's women who mourn the death of these babies.

if men cared, they wouldn't use DU or allow the men in power to use it - bottom line
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demsrule4life Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 01:02 PM
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5. So no men grieve when it comes to sickness or death
of their kids? Give me a friggen break.
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 01:12 PM
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6. never said that about men - assuming can get you in trouble

women bare the burden the most in my opinion
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 01:31 PM
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8. of course women bear most of the burden
the men "help out".
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 01:19 PM
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7. My brother said the Army has informed him
that since he was in PGWI, he still has a 30% higher probability of having children with serious defects, even now. He has opted not to ever have kids. He has made a significant sacrifice, IMO and in his opinion, to meet the prior demand of his govt to serve.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 01:35 PM
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10. A young friend of ours had a daughter last year
with goldenhars syndrome (it's been associated with Gulf War exposure to chemicals)..

She had no eyelid, her left eye was filled with tumors, and had to be removed at 1 month..She has little or no vision in the other eye, has other deformities as well..

Their other child born before he went was perfectly fine..

Of course the military denies that there was anything wrong with Mike :(

Tell that to their daughter..
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