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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 12:25 AM
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Most powerful part of F 9/11: the bookend scenes of the grieving women.
Iraq is the subject of the second half of the film, and near the beginning of it we see an Iraqi woman grieving and angered after a bomb has killed some family members. For me, this was the most moving scene of the film. Near the end of the film, we see an American woman grieving the loss of her son. The positioning of these two scenes really give the film structure. We first see what war does to the conquered; we finish by seeing that it has done much the same thing to those who were sent to conquer.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 12:26 AM
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1. Brilliant
In a war, no one wins.

I can't wait to see this movie.
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armymom Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 12:29 AM
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2. Please come post your reviews here too!
I'm new to this site, but have been a "fixture" over on the Kerry and Clark blogs. I posted here earlier today after my husband & I had seen the movie, but it seems like all of the threads here are scattered. Over at the Clark blog, we have a topic where many dems are posting reviews of F/911. Please come post your reviews of the movie and read what many of us have said about the movie - if you don't have a Clark login, you can still post - please put your blog name from DU on your post so we recognize you. We are posting reviews at http://armymom.forclark.com/story/2004/6/25/171113/799 and suspect that MM will be seeing them, as he too was a Clarkie! Please pass this info along so we Dems can unite in support of our soldiers and in opposition to Bush and his assinine war!

Thank you! Armymom, a veteran and mom of 1st Cav soldier currently in Baghdad.

FWIW, my review of the movie is:
As many of you know, my husband and I are both Army veterans - and our oldest son, David, is an infantry soldier with the 1st Cav in Baghdad. Photos from Iraq online at http://tinyurl.com/2qalg

We just got home from seeing Farenheit 9/11, and it was an emotionally draining experience for us. It was a very well-done movie. Some of the Saudi-Bush stuff was a bit over the top, I thought, and there were some gory scenes of both civilian and military casualties, as well as a few vignettes that did not portay soldiers in a good light, but in toto, I felt like the movie was favorable to soldiers and their families. I wish that Moore hadn't included a few soldiers reveling in killing Iraqis and speaking in a dehumanizing way, but there were so many scenes and interviews with soldiers that depict things that our son has described to us, as well as many similar sentiments about the mission at present.

We went to a 130 p.m. showing in the Huntersville/Lake Norman, NC, area, which is fairly Republican. Not only was the theatre nearly sold out, there was an amazing cross-section of viewers - teens, middle aged, many elderly (a surprise to me), African Americans, grunge kids, college kids, you name it. There was much applause, laughter, and a few shouts at Bush throguhout the movie. At the end of the movie, a lady stood up and announced that she was handing out voter registration cards - and there were many takers, most of whom were young and/or African American.

There were several segments of the movie where we both covered or closed our eyes because it was hard not to imagine our son in place of the injured or dead soldiers depicted. It is for that very reason that I think everyone should see this film, because so many people don't have a clue what is really occurring in Iraq on a daily basis and how abandoned and betrayed many of our soldiers feel.

I know that our son will likely see this movie in Iraq this weekend, as pirated DVD's are available as soon as movies appear in theatres here. Ironically, we are apprehensive about David seeing it because of the political buffoonery it shows and the further demoralization that seeing the portayal of the Bush Administration in this light could cause.

We give the movie 4 thumbs up. Everyone should see this movie so that they can see the reality of the occupation of Iraq.


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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 12:31 AM
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3. I Agree Completely - Saw It Thursday At Midnight Had Exactly
the same thought!
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 12:35 AM
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4. The American press corp should hide their head in shame
The pictures from Iraq were unbelievable

Where are the reporters from the United States showing us this
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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 12:38 AM
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5. Shock and Awe wasn't quite the fun show the cable news networks showed us.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 12:52 AM
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6. Excellent
More humor in it than I expected, but uncharacteristic restraint out of Moore. Vet DUers won't see a lot of new material here but a lot of footage to back up what they've heard and read.

Most importantly it is on the level of a primer of Repug corruption, the level it should be to have the most effect on swing voters.
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