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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 01:43 AM
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Repost: Where in the World is James R. Bath?

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http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=03/08/11/1447218#transcript

AMY GOODMAN: And what is Bath’s connection to the Bushes?

J. H. HATFIELD: Well he was also in the National Guard with George W. back in the 70’s which is interesting too because in 1972 in August, my publisher was able not too long ago to get hold of Bush’s national guard records. And in 1972, at the same time we alleged he was doing community service for cocaine arrest James Bath who was in the unit with him. Both of them were grounded for failing to show up for medical exam. 14:19

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http://www.texasobserver.org/showArticle.asp?ArticleID=480

After the death of Mohammed bin Laden, control of the company passed to Salem bin Laden, Osama’s half brother. The roots of the first known Bush-bin Laden convergence date back to the mid-1970s, when the two clans were linked by a Houston businessman named James R. Bath. Bath had befriended George W. Bush in the late 1960s, when they both served in the Texas Air National Guard. By 1976, when Gerald Ford appointed the elder George Bush as CIA director, Bath was acting as a business agent for Salem bin Laden’s interests in Texas. (Texas and Saudi Arabia were well-connected by this point through U.S. oil companies and related industries with operations in both locations.) In 1991 Time magazine and later other publications reported on allegations by Bath’s former business partner that the Bush CIA hired Bath in 1976 to create offshore companies to move CIA funds and aircraft between Texas and Saudi Arabia.

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Original DU thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1106153


In light of F9/11, people might be interested in learning more about James Bath, Arbusto, Harken Oil, the TX Rangers, UTIMCO, etc. Post away, friends.

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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 01:54 AM
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1. The TANG document suspending Bush & Bath, both.


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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 01:57 AM
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2. indeed, indeed, and indeed!
Where in the world?
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 02:04 AM
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4. I know you have the goods on Harken, Rangers, Hicks, UTIMCO, etc.,
Time to put it all out there again, grasswire, now that folks are interested. Remember there has been about a two-year lag between what interests us junkies and what appears in mainstream news. Feed the fire. Time is ripe.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 02:00 AM
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3. Bath & BCCI
http://boston.indymedia.org/newswire/display/3642/index.php

<snip>

In 1979, Bush's first business, Arbusto Energy, obtained financing from James Bath, a Houstonian and close family friend. One of many investors, Bath gave Bush $50,000 for a 5 percent stake in Arbusto. At the time, Bath was the sole U.S. business representative for Salem bin Laden, head of the wealthy Saudi Arabian family and a brother (one of 17) to Osama bin Laden. It has long been suspected, but never proven, that the Arbusto money came directly from Salem bin Laden. In a statement issued shortly after the September 11 attacks, the White House vehemently denied the connection, insisting that Bath invested his own money, not Salem bin Laden's, in Arbusto.

In conflicting statements, Bush at first denied ever knowing Bath, then acknowledged his stake in Arbusto and that he was aware Bath represented Saudi interests. In fact, Bath has extensive ties, both to the bin Laden family and major players in the scandal-ridden Bank of Commerce and Credit International (BCCI) who have gone on to fund Osama bin Laden. BCCI defrauded depositors of $10 billion in the '80s in what has been called the 'largest bank fraud in world financial history' by former Manhattan District Attorney Robert Morgenthau. During the '80s, BCCI also acted as a main conduit for laundering money intended for clandestine CIA activities, ranging from financial support to the Afghan mujahedin to paying intermediaries in the Iran-Contra affair.

When Salem bin Laden died in 1988, powerful Saudi Arabian banker and BCCI principal Khalid bin Mahfouz inherited his interests in Houston. Bath ran a business for bin Mahfouz in Houston and joined a partnership with bin Mahfouz and Gaith Pharaon, BCCI's frontman in Houston's Main Bank.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 12:56 PM
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13. Remember in JULY 2001-- Jim Hatfield warned of Aerial Attack.
The late biographer of Smirko had a lot to day before he suddenly suicided:

Why would Osama bin Laden want to kill Dubya, his former business partner?

By James Hatfield

SNIP...

July 3, 2001—There may be fireworks in Genoa, Italy, this month, too.

A plot by Saudi master terrorist, Osama bin Laden, to assassinate Dubya during the July 20 economic summit of world leaders, was uncovered after dozens of suspected Islamic militants linked to bin Laden's international terror network were arrested in Frankfurt, Germany, and Milan, Italy, in April.

German intelligence services have stated that bin Laden is covertly financing neo-Nazi skinhead groups throughout Europe to launch another terrorist attack at a high-profile American target—his first since the bombing of the USS Cole in Yemen last October.

According to counter-terrorism experts quoted in Germany's largest newspaper, the attack on Dubya might be a James Bond-like aerial strike in the form of remote-controlled airplanes packed with plastic explosives.

CONTINUED...

http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/Hatfield-R-091901/hatfield-r-091901.html

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HuskerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 03:02 AM
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5. I'll bet Bushco was BUMMED to find out Moore
was ahead of their game.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 09:10 AM
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9. Remember Moore opened up the whole TANG question again
When Moore made a remark about Bush AWOL in introducing Wes Clark during the primaries - and then Peter Jennings asked Clark in a very scathing tone to denounce Moore's remark and Clark wouldn't do it. Right after that was when the WH was forced to hand over the 400 pages of Bush TANG records that proved NOTHING. Now AP is suing for the actual microfiche of the original records.

Once again, thank you Michael Moore! A brave warrior for the truth!
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 03:38 AM
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6. Did you know that JH HATFIELD committed 'suicide'??
Now this is worth furthur investigation.
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Full transcript of interview with Bush Biographer J.H. Hatfield Who Died 2 Years Ago of an Alleged Suicide Amidst Controversy Over his Book Fortunate Son

Today we play an interview that we have held for over three years. It involves allegations of President Bush, drugs, obstruction of justice and corporate scandal. It raises questions about why Bush’s driver license number was changed.

In the book Fortunate Son: George W. Bush and the Making of an American President author J.H. Hatfield charges that President Bush was arrested in 1972 for cocaine possession and that Bush’s father George Sr. used his political connections to have his son’s record expunged.

Soon after publication, Hatfield’s credibility was challenged. He had been convicted in 1988 for hiring a hit-man in a failed attempt to kill his boss and had served five years in prison.

J.H. Hatfield died of an alleged suicide in July 2001.

Listen to or watch the interview here

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=03/08/11/1447218
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Go read the balance and liten to the taped interview
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 08:25 AM
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8. That's a great interview
I can't get the Democracy Now page to load for some reason. Found a mirror copy here:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4422.htm

AMY GOODMAN: Let’s talk about his time in Midland as an oil businessman. You go into great detail in the book about the kinds of people who bailed him out. Their connections to his father and the family. The connections to the Persian Gulf war, etc. Why don’t you give us a little more detail.

J. H. HATFIELD: Yeah. He’s made a lot of money by—being bailed out by his dad’s friends. For example. his first company Arbusto. One of the major investors was James Bath who had connections to the BCCI scandal and Osama Bin Laden family. And why would somebody invest in the son of a vice-presidents first little oil company. I mean you have to have an interest. Just like right now, he’s raised 70 million dollars. When he gets to the White House, if he gets to the White House, you’re naïve if you don’t think those corporate people who got him there, they’ll want something in return.

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AMY GOODMAN: And what is Bath’s connection to the Bushes?

J. H. HATFIELD: Well he was also in the National Guard with George W. back in the 70’s which is interesting too because in 1972 in August, my publisher was able not too long ago to get hold of Bush’s national guard records. And in 1972, at the same time we alleged he was doing community service for cocaine arrest James Bath who was in the unit with him. Both of them were grounded for failing to show up for medical exam. 14:19

AMY GOODMAN: Wait, what did you say about drugs?

J. H. HATFIELD: Oh the drug question. Well that’s the $64 question that we raise in the afterword of the book. We say that George W. Bush was arrested in 1972 for possession of cocaine and his father got it fixed and he did community service at Project Pool a minority mentoring program, tough area in Houston for 1 year 14:46 <more>
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 03:45 AM
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7. Fascinating what you can find on the internet!
I have not had time to review...BUT there is a lot here on Bath's lifetime background.......and his association with Bin Laden!
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 09:55 AM
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10. Bath is a BFEE dot that connects much BFEE Turd-dom.
Petrodollars fuel the BFEE:



The Complete Saudi Primer

Michael Moore's new movie, Farenheit 9/11, delves into the relationship between the Bush dynasty and the House of Saud. Follow along with this guide to everything you always wanted to know about the Bush-Saudi connection but were afraid to ask.


June 24, 2004


SAUDI ARABIA
Under the Influence

EXCERPT...

BUSH'S PERSONAL FINANCIAL TIES TO SAUDIS RUN DEEP: According to various sources, Bush has been awash in Saudi money for years. Journalist/author Craig Unger in his new book "House of Bush, House of Saud" traced millions "in investments and contracts that went from the Saudis over the past 20 years to companies in which the Bushes and their allies have had prominent positions - Harken Energy, Halliburton, and the Carlyle Group among them." According to the Boston Herald, that includes a $1 million gift from Prince Bandar to the Bush Presidential Library in Texas.

THE BCCI-BUSH-SAUDI-TERRORIST NEXUS: The Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI), which was investigated by Congress in the 1980s, appears to be at the nexus of the Bush-Saudi connection. It's principal was Khalid bin Mahfouz, a man USA Today reported was among Saudi businessmen who, even after the U.S.S. Cole attack, "continued to transfer tens of millions of dollars to bank accounts linked to indicted terrorist Osama bin Laden." Under Mahfouz (who was later indicted for his actions at BCCI), the Wall Street Journal noted in 1991 that there was a "mosaic of BCCI connections surrounding Harken Energy" and "number of BCCI-connected people who had dealings with Harken — all since George W. Bush came on board." And according to U.S. officials who investigated the bank in the 1980s, "BCCI was the mother and father of terrorist financing operations." A secret French intelligence report "identifies dozens of companies and individuals who were involved with BCCI and were found to be dealing with bin Laden after the bank collapsed. Many went on to work in banks and charities identified by the United States and others as supporting al Qaeda."

WAS BCCI'S INDICTED PRINCIPAL A BUSH BUSINESS BACKER?: Author Kevin Phillips, a top Republican strategist under President Nixon, reported in his new book, "Bush made his first connection in the late 1970s with James Bath, a Texas businessmen who served as the North American representative for two rich Saudis (and Osama bin Laden relatives) - billionaire Salem bin Laden and banker and BCCI insider Khalid bin Mahfouz. Bath put $50,000 into Bush's 1979 Arbusto oil partnership, probably using bin Laden-bin Mahfouz funds." Also of interest: Former CIA Director James Woolsey testified to the Senate on 9/3/98 that Mafouz's sister was married to Osama bin Laden. And according to the conservative American Spectator, "Bush has given conflicting statements about Bath's investment in Arbusto, finally admitting to the Wall Street Journal that he was aware that Bath represented Saudi investors."

BUSH CAMPAIGN TIES TO THE SAUDIS: A 12/11/01 Boston Herald report found that "a powerful Washington, D.C., law firm with unusually close ties to the White House has earned hefty fees representing controversial Saudi billionaires as well as a Texas-based Islamic charity fingered last week as a terrorist front." The influential law firm of Akin, Gump, whose partners "include one of President Bush's closest Texas friends, James C. Langdon, and Bush fundraiser George R. Salem," has represented three wealthy Saudi businessmen – BCCI's Mahfouz, Mohammed Hussein Al-Amoudi and Salah Idris – "who have been scrutinized by U.S. authorities for possible involvement in financing Osama bin Laden and his terrorist network."

CONTINUED TREASON, WITH LINKS...

http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=99415
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 10:23 AM
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12. Keep telling them, Octafish!
Just say it over and over again, and louder and louder.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 01:11 PM
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14. Bush is a CROOK!


Lack of a brain is no excuse.
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 09:58 AM
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11. Somewhere in Florida with Kenny Boy Lay.
Laughing their asses off at us.
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