The Red Cross has its portable kitchens parked in Texas cause

[Pallas180]

New Orleans is too dangerous.,

Beside the fact that they have shown themselves to be crooks in 9-11,
don;t send them one dime unless they get their asses over to New Orleans.

[linazelle]

1. Hi Pallas.

:hi:

Unfortunately I already donated to them.

[Pallas180]

15. hey Linazelle, call em up and tell em what for !

(:

[wellstone_democrat]

2. I sent mine elsewhere

to the Salvation Army---some don't like their stand on gays but the Red Cross has enough bigots to supply Texas (I know, I worked two long months temping for them in the 1980s---what an enormous overhead and lovely headquarters!)

I won't give them a dime.

[Tyranny_R_US]

3. Its amazing the Salvation Army gets there with less donations than the...

Red cross, you can donate all day long but at the end of the day when those people die of hunger and starvation its not going to matter (AND NO I'm not discuraging donations I just think the red cross has been doing a half assed job)


With that said be prepared to be roasted!

[Pallas180]

16. But they're pretty good about spreading Aids & Hepatitis around with taint

tainted blood. That they're good at distributing...

[TahitiNut]

19. The Salvation Army always seems to get there first.

Ever since I was in Viet Nam, I've not been very impressed by the Red Cross. They're the civilian equivalent of REMFs -- setting up away from the action and close to the rank (not the file).

[babylonsister]

4. Wow. I remember that also; Red Cross took too much

advantage during 9/11. I have to believe someone is on the up and up.

[The_Casual_Observer]

5. Red Cross is for shit.

They have always been for shit.

[cascadiance]

6. Damn! I just sent them $100 earlier today, with another $100...

matched from my employer! Everything else sounded too religious for my tastes, and Salvation Army I have another bone to pick with, since they refused to take my couch donation a year or so ago (when Goodwill did later), which lead to my car getting stolen in front of my house, since I had my couch and chair in the garage while I was waiting for Goodwill to come later to pick it up after they wouldn't. Had they taken it like Goodwill did, I'd not have had to go through that hassle!

[Horse with no Name]

8. Your money is safe

Some of these people don't know what they are talking about.

[Tyranny_R_US]

9. "Some"

:rofl: Please by all means fill us in on what we are missing.

[really annoyed]

24. No Doubt Here

I already sent my donations to the Red Cross, and I will send more to various charities.

[Zinfandel]

7. Kick!

[expatriate]

10. You know, there are tons of places pretty much unscathed between

Texas and New Orleans. Lots of towns where they could set up and be "safe".

I remember how my grandfather, a WWI veteran, despised the Red Cross after things he'd seen when he was in Europe. I used to wonder, but considering some of their antics in the last few years, I no longer wonder.

Why the hell can't they set up in Baton Rouge, or Gonzales, or any other town outside of the main storm path, with utilities and water and stuff? Why hours away in Texas?

[Pallas180]

20. My mother volunteered RC during WW2-uniform & all 9 yards

but when she saw them charging the soldiers for coffee, those coming back and those being shipped out, having two brothers in the service,
she took off the uniform and hated Red Cross from that day forward.

Of course, they haven't had a real nice track record since.

I haven't heard of the UN charging victims for coffee or meals.

[KAZ]

11. Ok, can someone give me a COGENT reason to avoid the RC.

Haven't heard one yet.

[KAZ]

12. It's your thread. You owe us a few answers. n/t

n/t

[Tyranny_R_US]

13. and you owe it to the OP to actually READ his post before going off

[KAZ]

14. OP? Sorry, don't get the vernacular.

Explain, if you're so inclined.

I'm rather leary of anyone dissing the RD (read O'Reilly), but if he has a point to make, then make it!

[KAZ]

28. Original Poster!! Now I get it.

12 years on the net and I still don't get it. :)

And you are still wrong. There was no "going off" in my post.

[TahitiNut]

22. "us"??? Somebody else with a tapeworm, huh?

:eyes:

[Pallas180]

23. KAZ, I dont owe you anything. You owe Americans in New Orleans

help, as we all do, and the Red Cross is not there giving it.

[KAZ]

27. I'm sorry, unless you, or someone else posts evidence of...

...something that's negatively substantiative about the RC, then it's just another RW talking point.

[Tyranny_R_US]

29. OH MY GOD! How many times have I read that excuse

"it's just another RW talking point"

Its not a RW talking point that the Red Cross,FEMA,NG and Bush are all sitting on their asses watching these people die and in Condi's case she's shopping in NY! HAHAHAHAHAHA! Give me a break!

[Pallas180]

30. "RW talking point" hahahahah hahahaha hahaha

you made a wrong turn there mr.

I been around for about 9000 posts - and you?

[Cleita]

17. Do you have a link or something to back this claim up?

I have read from people who are survivors that the RC has been in LA giving as much help as they can considering the circumstances. Texas is rather large. Do you know where they are parked, like a town or something?

[eridani]

18. Here's some documentation, FWIW

Don't Give Your Hurricane Donations to the Red Cross

Establishment charities have history of withholding disaster funds
Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones | September 1 2005

As the aftermath of hurricane Katrina continues to wreak mayhem and havoc amid reports of mass looting, shooting at rescue helicopters, rapes and murders, establishment media organs are promoting the Red Cross as a worthy organization to give donations to.

The biggest website in the world, Yahoo.com, displays a Red Cross donation link prominently on its front page.

Every time there is a major catastrophe the Red Cross and similar organizations like United Way are given all the media attention while other charities are left in the shadows. This is not to say that the vast majority of Red Cross workers are not decent people who simply want to help those in need.

But what the media fails consistently to remember in their promotion of the organization is that the Red Cross have been caught time and time again withholding money in the wake of horrible disasters that require immediate release of funds.

The Red Cross, under the Liberty Fund, collected $564 million in donations after 9/11. Months after the event, the Red Cross had distributed only $154 million. The Red Cross' explanation for keeping the majority of the money was that it would be used to help 'fight the war on terror'. To the victims, this meant that the money was going towards bombing broken backed third world countries like Afghanistan and setting up surveillance cameras and expanding the police state in US cities, and not towards helping them rebuild their lives.

Then Red Cross President Dr. Bernadine Healy arrogantly responded when questioned about the withholding of funds by stating, "The Liberty Fund is a war fund. It has evolved into a war fund."
Despite the family members of victims of 9/11 complaining bitterly to a House Energy and Commerce Committee's oversight panel, the issue seemed to be brushed under the carpet and the mud didn't stick.
The Red Cross' scandalous activities reach back far before 9/11.
After the devastating San Francisco earthquake in 1989, the Red Cross passed on only $10 million of the $50 million that had been raised, and banked the rest.

Similar donations after the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995 and the Red River flooding in 1997 were also greedily withheld.
Smaller charities that were involved with the 2004 Tsunami relief project went public to say that large charities like Red Cross and United Way were engaged in secret backroom negotiations with each other that meant a large portion of the donation money was purposefully restricted from reaching the most needy areas affected by the disaster.

The history is clear, the Red Cross and other large so-called charities are in actual fact front group collection agencies for the military industrial complex.

Do not give any money to the Red Cross unless you support the expansion of empire abroad and police state at home. Find a smaller trustworthy organization in the local area of New Orleans and make your donation to them.

IF YOU DONATED TO THE RED CROSS in hopes it would help the WTC victims...THEY DIDN'T GET IT!

http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?ItemID=13994

[Pallas180]

25. Thanks Eridani. Would you please make this a separate topic

entitled DONT GIVE YOUR MONEY TO THE RED CROSS
so we can nominate it for the front page.

good show!

[eridani]

33. Tried to do that, but it disappeared n/t

[Pallas180]

35. Okay...try RED CROSS' TRACK RECORD & reprint the letter-

that may go through. :)

[Ms. Clio]

34. I am sick -- a war fund???

I am so sorry I gave anything to these bastards.

[goodboy]

21. if the Nat. Guard was here instead of they could've kept the peace...but

noooooo....they've got to dodge IED's while propping up a fledgling Islamic Theocracy.

[I_Make_Mistakes]

26. I give through my church because only 2% goes to overhead

They are the second largest charity provider ($ wise) but not (# of) congregant wise, it is smaller. I guess it because we spend the money feeding people not proselytizing them! It is something that I am very proud of!

[Pallas180]

31. Sounds good. Name of your church? I heard United Methodist

does nice things.

[I_Make_Mistakes]

32. ELCA Evangelical Lutheran Church of American don't get fooled

by the Evangelical (it is a 1600ad term)!