Did they plant a Chief Justice Of The United States Supreme Court today?

[NNN0LHI]

Hardly even noticed.

Don

[atreides1]

1. Nope

The only thing they planted today was just another racist, who wore a black robe instead of a white hood.

[MildyRules]

2. WOW! That's harsh

Was he really a racist?

[Media_Lies_Daily]

4. Yes, he was. Do some research on one of his first jobs.

[MildyRules]

5. Why don't you just tell me?

I don't have time to search for his first job.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

8. I don't have the time to do it for you.

[MildyRules]

Then don't make assertions without

proof, please. Thanks

[Media_Lies_Daily]

15. I never make assertions without proof, but I'm not going to do....

...your research for you.

[MildyRules]

17. Gee, that would work well with my college professors

I never make assertions without proof, but you need to find my sources yourself. Ummm, okay.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

20. Professors teach, students do research.

[MildyRules]

23. And once an assertion is made

Proof is required...When you go to college they'll teach you that.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

27. Been there, done that. You're the student...go do some research....

...I would say that you might learn something, but I think you've already proven that to be nearly impossible.

[MildyRules]

29. Nope

Like I said, you'll learn that in time.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

35. Since you've admitted to being a student,...

...I'll wager that you have much more time to learn than I do.

[mattclearing]

36. What a depressing exchange.

You both must be wondering how you can get the last twenty minutes of your life back.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

37. Actually, I enjoy rattling the cages of people who seem incapable of....

...learning and/or doing basic research.

By the way, since you consider this to be a waste of ten minutes, what are YOU doing reading it?

[MildyRules]

40. He's amazed

at how you failed "supporting your thesis 101"

[Media_Lies_Daily]

43. Right. He's probably even more amazed that you could read an article....

...proving the point that Rehnquist was a racist, and STILL not be able to comprehend what was written.

[mattclearing]

44. Hello? I can speak for myself.

I'm amazed you two are still arguing like children.

:popcorn:

[MildyRules]

47. You're right

It's silly. I'm done. It's too hard.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

49. I'm amazed that your "amazement" allowed you to jump into the....

...middle of this, and then continue posting that you think it's a waste of time.

Interesting logic.

[mattclearing]

51. .

:D

[mattclearing]

42. It doesn't take that long to read.

And even so, I could have googled what you were talking about in two. It just seems amazingly petty.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

46. Why do someone else's work for them? Particularly someone that....

...is intent on disavowing that Rehnqust was a racist.

I'm sorry, but I don't go out of my way to help people like that.

[MsTryska]

66. you know...i can't stand when

people won't let their fingers do the walking and go find out what they need to know.


rather than asking you for the proof.

[CatWoman]

56. actually, I'm quite enjoying it

and am firmly in Media Lies Daily's camp.

[MildyRules]

57. Of course YOU are

:-)

[CatWoman]

58. bwahahahahahahahaha

take that, whippersnapper :D

[MildyRules]

60. You'd be surprised...

[CatWoman]

64. aw, Mildy

You're cool with me :D

It was just me being an asshole :D

[MildyRules]

65. You're not Cat, not at all

And you're very cool with me.

[txaslftist]

72. Depressing exchange students???

[iverglas]

73. college just ain't what it used to be

Of course, the one I went to was a university, what we call 'em up here. I was just talking to a friend of mine who's been teaching at one for a couple of decades. He's clinically depressed. Ha ha, not really. He's just nauseated. These days, he just assumes most of his students are ignorant, and arrogant to boot.

In my day, it was possible to assume that people had a basic store of knowledge before they got to academia -- and that they recognized that there were things that were common knowledge, even if they didn't know them.

They also recognized that other people knew things they didn't, and understood that maybe it wasn't the job of the world at large to spend its time teaching them things it wasn't paid to teach them.

These days, it really is quite easy to remedy any gaps there may be in the knowledge one needs to discuss things intelligently. And believe me: repeatedly telling someone else to prove something to you isn't discussing anything intelligently.

What you do is something like this:

Go to google.com. Put the words rehnquist racist in the search box. And abracadabra, you get 263,000 things to read. Because your search was so non-specific, you even get things that say he *wasn't* a racist, in case that was the thesis you were wanting to defend.

At bottom, here's the thing: just because you exist, nobody is obligated to talk to you. If you want to participate in a discussion in which people who know things you don't know are involved, and it's taking place in public, you're quite welcome to do that. If you want to know what the basis is for something that someone else is saying, you're quite welcome to ask.

You did: Was he really a racist?

You got an answer, and an indication of where to find supporting evidence. Then you seemed to think that someone should prove the truth of that answer. Since nobody was actually demanding that you accept the answer, or claiming to have established the answer as true, nobody had to prove a damned thing to you. That's the thing. You were at all times perfectly free to believe whatever you wanted. If you had wanted to assert the contrary, then you could have done that too. And a fine round of "is", "is not" could have ensued. Unless either person was actually claiming to have demonstrated a position, or looking for a good mark on his/her essay, neither person would have had any reason to produce supporting evidence.

People really may "make assertions without proof" anytime they like, and without any valid reason for chiding by you. People, in fact, do it every minute of the day. You must be busy.
"It's raining."
"Wow! Is it really raining?"
"Yes it is; look out the window."
"Why don't you just describe the meteorological events in detail, I don't have time to look out the window."
... ... ...

I'm too late to this particular party to have any real fun, but I'm feeling irritable ...

[Autonomy]

45. Only the bottom rung professors teach

and the really crappy ones neither teach nor research -- they preach.

[JVS]

69. But you'll waste time fighting about not having to back up your claim?

:shrug:

[Shakespeare]

13. Okay, I'll just tell you.

I happen to keep this link handy for people who "don't have the time."

Learn to do your homework. It's your best defense against these criminals.

http://archive.salon.com/news/1998/07/03news.html

[MildyRules]

16. Ok Nothing there supports that claim

....

[Media_Lies_Daily]

18. LOL! That's rich. I had you figured out the minute you posted.

[MildyRules]

21. Figured out?

Gee, I don't agree with you...ask you to post a source to back up your claim (a normal request)...and you have me "figured out?"

[Media_Lies_Daily]

25. Yep. You're much too transparent,....

...you lack basic reading comprehension skills, and you have very poor research skills.

I only help those who help themselves.

[MildyRules]

28. Sorry

In college they will teach you that once you make an assertion, YOU must provide the proof.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

52. Back to basics: Your OP argued that Rehnquist was not a racist....

...yet you failed to provide proof for your assertion. Then you wanted me to provide proof to back up my comments.

The proof was provided by another poster in an article which you summarily dismissed without making any commant as to why you dismissed it. Personally, I doubt that you read any of it.

[MildyRules]

59. No

My OP "questioned" the assertion. I made no assertion of my own. See the difference? No, you probably don't.

[Shakespeare]

19. HAHAHAHA. Bullshit.

A pupil of Evelyn Wood, I presume? :eyes:

[MildyRules]

24. Seriously

Nothing from that single article supports the assertion that Rhenquist was a racist.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

30. You need a GOOD course in reading comprehension....

...but you're probably not interested in anything that might involve some work.

[MildyRules]

32. I need you to back up a statement

for a change. That "do your homework" canard is tiresome.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

41. It's already been posted....it's not my fault you can't understand....

...basic English.

[Mutley]

50. This doesn't do the trick?

Did you read the whole article? It's only about a quarter of the way down. http://archive.salon.com/news/1998/07/03news.html

"In the chambers of Justice Robert Jackson, one of the justice's clerks broods over the Court's march toward abolition of Southern states' race laws. The Jim Crow doctrine of separate-but-equal, the clerk wrote Jackson, was "right and should be affirmed" as the Supreme Court had done back in 1893. Liberal justices, mostly New Dealers like Hugo Black and William O. Douglas appointed by presidents Roosevelt and Truman, were engaged in "a pathological search for discrimination." The clerk advised Justice Jackson in a memo that, "It is about time the Court faced the fact that white people in the South don't like the colored people."

Desegregation is not the only issue raising this particular clerk's ire. A few months earlier, he had bristled at delays in executing Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, convicted of atom-bomb espionage. He couldn't understand, he sneered in a memo to Justice Jackson, "why the highest court in the land must behave like a bunch of old women" whenever it confronted capital punishment.

Justice Jackson's clerk -- at 27 years old, no unformed adolescent -- was William Rehnquist, today Chief Justice of the United States. As federal prosecutor Edward Lazarus notes in his recent book "Closed Chambers" (far more scholarly and reflective than its marketing as a former clerk's tell-all memoir would suggest), the disdain Rehnquist reflected in those memos to Justice Jackson would prove prophetic. By the mid-1960s, the specific issues that so angered clerk Rehnquist -- the civil rights movement and capital punishment -- would become flashpoints for a new generation of far-right lawyers. Bearing in one hand the club of state's rights, in the other the truncheon of law-and-order, these conservatives were determined to beat back the era's revolution in civil rights and civil liberties."

[Brother Buzz]

61. Perhaps an even more troublesome aspect is the fact that...

Rehnquist was elevated to chief justice, confirmed despite the fact that he had never recanted his views of "colored people" and desegregation. That should be the focus in my opinion.

[Mutley]

63. Oh I agree.

But I posted that to point out to another poster the part of the article that shows Rehnquist was racist.

[Brother Buzz]

67. Oh, I fully understand what you were doing...

but we need to frame the debate to prevent wiggle room and take that point off the table. Hey, they dredge up the racist Byrd all the time but neglect to mention that he has recanted his views a million times, yet I never heard Rehnquist say a peep. That is the point we need to be making.

[Shakespeare]

68. They clearly did NOT read the entire article.

The man was absolutely, positively a racist.

[Mutley]

71. There is no question.

Just the use of the term "colored people" is all I needed to confirm that.

[H5N1]

53. Sure it does. Why not... read it and find out.

[MildyRules]

62. I did

One article that doesn't show ANYWHERE that Rhennie thought Whites are superior to Blacks. Do you see that in there?

[funflower]

3. Any support for that statement?

Seems a pretty harsh thing to say without some kind of basis.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

6. Check his biography. Look at one of his first jobs.

[MildyRules]

10. Normally the ones making the assertion

provide the proof...

[Media_Lies_Daily]

12. If you're that interested, look it up yourself.

[MildyRules]

14. That's helpful

If you're the font of knowledge, share.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

22. It's already been shared by someone with more patience for....

...for students with bad research skills.

[Name removed]

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[Media_Lies_Daily]

31. You continue to prove that you have no skills in basic...

...reading comprehension.

You have EXCELLENT skills in wasting everyone's time.

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[funflower]

54. Whatever.

:boring:

[GreenPartyVoter]

7. I heard that confirmation hearings start on Monday

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[Beetwasher]

9. Was Roberts Confirmed Today?

Doesn't the Senate have to confirm him first?

[funflower]

55. The OP is referring to Chief Justice Rehnquist.

[DS1]

11. No, they Planted a President 5 years ago. Today they planted a

FORMER Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court :-)

[txaslftist]

33. They planted a neocon hack who was loyal to the end.

good riddance to bad rubbish.

[freemen2005]

48. another puppet

just another puppet for the elite to make dance in front of us.

[mitchum]

70. I'm happy for the worms