BREAKING: Bush banning all media from New Orleans

[stopbush]

http://www.americablog.org/

[tom_paine]

1. See? They did learn something from this tragedy

To do what the Soviets did in ALL things, no exceptions.

[htuttle]

13. Full Chernobyl Treatment

Wonder if they are also playing classical music on a PA system throughout the empty streets?

[saigon68]

60. The Bush Criminals Ride again

With that big fat white haired HAG leading the way with her "BEAUTIFUL MIND"

[fed-up]

37. How many bodies are they trying to hide???

There is something major they must be trying to cover up, not that what is/has already happened is not a big enought catastrophy.

[Arkansas Granny]

78. They don't want anyone to witness the mass graves

that it will take to hold all the dead. Out of sight, out of mind.

[Radio_Lady]

108. IMPORTANT to track this down. Who is Bob Brigham? Why can't

we find this on any other media outlet except America blog?

Are the mods around to discuss this??? Thanks.

[librechik]

here is his blog

http://www.swingstateproject.com/

but I can't find the report in question

[mattclearing]

2. Freedom of the press is overrated anyway. n/t

[Pirate Smile]

4. It was before (not really) but they were just starting to wake up again.

How can Bush do it? He doesn't control NOLA.

[mattclearing]

8. We'll see, won't we? n/t

[lumpy]

122. Maybe this is why the spat between Bush

and the governor of Lousiana.

[KansDem]

Besides, 42% of Americans believe the press has too much freedom anyway

42% of respondents said the press in America has too much freedom to do what it wants

http://www.mediainfo.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1734342

So let's clamp down of freedom of the press; the other 58% will follow...

[Ishoutandscream2]

89. Oh man! That in itself is frightening

Dark Ages, anyone?

[FreedomAngel82]

207. Ugh

I can't believe it! Doesn't this go against the first amendment???

[sniffa]

3. i thought it was atrios?

and can they LegaLLy do that? 1st amendent gone!

[Benhurst]

6. This is post "Patriot" Act. You have no rights. NT

[Sabriel]

16. So Katrina is officially now considered a terrorist?

Since when does the PA apply to disasters like this?

[Beaver Tail]

31. USA Patriot Act

To deter and punish terrorist acts in the United States and around the world, to enhance law enforcement investigatory tools, and for other purposes.

They shouldn’t permit that kind of wording in a fucking GYM membership let alone a legal document.

[Zhade]

129. And just think, 99 senators voted for the fucking thing.

Feingold deserves a medal for his "no"!

Just like the IRW (contrary to some desperate partisan spinners on both sides), which gave b*s* the authority to act when HE decides, based on what HE decides is a threat.

[FreedomAngel82]

209. For that vote a lone

I think he deserves to be vice president to Al Gore.

[sarcasmo]

32. The new PA applies to everything you thought were your freedoms.

[Benhurst]

57. Right, sarcasmo. Americans don't even have the protection of

habeas corpus if a president wants to lock them up forever or even execute them as "threats to the state." In fact, Americans now have fewer rights than the Founding Fathers when they rebelled against the tyranny of Great Britain in 1776. They at least were protected by the Magna Carta, which reaffirmed the right to file a writ or petition of habeas corpus when imprisoned by the state.

[FormerRepublican]

5. Uh, oh.

Why is it that I KNOW Bush is doing something he shouldn't when the whole world ISN'T watching?

This is a very bad sign...

[FreedomAngel82]

211. Isn't that how they do everything??

They either sneak things in bills (such as the Real ID act) or they do it when everybody else is focused on something else.

[Name removed]

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[Skinner]

9. I hope you don't mind that I edited your title.

It's americablog, not atrios.

[stopbush]

11. Thanks. I was working fast on that one and blew it.

[seriousstan]

75. Are blogs now LBN sources?

[Radio_Lady]

104. Mods, please identify whether "America Blog" is a quotable source!

Thanks.

[William769]

10. If this is true

Why is CNN & MSNBC still there?

I take this with a grain of salt.

[stopbush]

14. No new reporters let in; if you leave, you can't come back.

They'll get to the already embedded reporters ASAP, I'm sure.

[William769]

20. Well then the title is wrong

I don't want to mince words but the title is very misleading.

[Tace]

12. This Won't Work For Him

If this is true, the media are going to boil him alive.

[chomskysright]

175. time to get in our cars and run over the military: there's more of us...

THAN THEM. Damn: wish I hadn't given up my gun. We don't got NO GUNS, librels.

[Me.]

15. I Don't Think He Has The Power To Do This

Part of the battle with Governor Blanco is that she refused to hand authority for the state and city over to the feds. We'll have to see.

[gkhouston]

42. you're right; Blanco's not going to go for this, if only to spite

blivet** and Witt's got nothing to hide. Some of the reporters already there aren't going to want to leave and the media will go ballistic at the idea of being excluded from a story for no good reason other than the administration's desperate need to put a positive spin on things.

Oh, this is going to backfire, big time. If they wanted to take attention away from the forced evacuation and body detail in NOLA, they should have gotten busy elsewhere with something substantial and good, like finding housing for the evacuees or doing something to clean up Mississippi. This just makes it smell like they're waiting for the press to leave so we won't count the bodies as they're rounded up -- or worse yet, so we won't see them shooting everyone left in NOLA. Gosh, some of those "flood" victims don't appear to have drowned, after all. You know what happens when looters get their hands on guns. :sarcasm:

[calimary]

85. Especially when no autopsies are being allowed...

THIS stinks to high heaven!!

IMPEACHMENT NOW!!!!!!!!!!
Get on it, guys.

[seemslikeadream]

55. FEMA has the power to do that and a lot more

Executive Order Number 12148 created the Federal Emergency Management Agency to interface with the Department of Defense for civil defense planning and funding. An "emergency czar" was appointed. FEMA has only spent about 6 percent of its budget on national emergencies. The bulk of their funding has been used for the construction of secret underground facilities to assure continuity of government in case of a major emergency, foreign or domestic.

http://www.fema.gov/library/eo12148.shtm

Executive Order Number 12656 appointed the National Security Council as the principal body that should consider emergency powers. This allows the government to increase domestic intelligence and surveillance of U.S. citizens and would restrict the freedom of movement within the United States and grant the government the right to isolate large groups of civilians. The National Guard could be federalized to seal all borders and take control of U.S. air space and all ports of entry.
http://www.disastercenter.com/laworder/12656.htm

Executive Order 10990 allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.
http://www.lib.umich.edu/govdocs/jfkeo/eo/10990.htm

Executive Order 10995 allows Seizure of all communications media in the United States.
http://www.disastercenter.com/laworder/10995.htm

Executive Order 10997 allows Seizure of all electric power fuels and minerals, public and private.
http://www.disastercenter.com/laworder/10997.htm


Executive Order 10998 allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.
http://www.disastercenter.com/laworder/10998.htm

Executive Order 10999 allows Seizure of all means of transportation, including personal cars, trucks or vehicles of any kind and total control of highways, seaports and waterways.
http://www.disastercenter.com/laworder/10999.htm

Executive Order 11000 allows Seizure of all American people for work forces under federal supervision including the splitting of families if the government finds it necessary.
http://www.disastercenter.com/laworder/11000.htm

Executive Order 11001 allows seizure of all health, education and welfare facilities, public and private.
http://www.disastercenter.com/laworder/11001.htm

Executive Order 11002 empowered the postmaster general to register all men, women and children in the U.S.
http://www.disastercenter.com/laworder/11002.htm

Executive Order 11003 allows seizure of all airports and aircraft.
http://www.disastercenter.com/laworder/11003.htm

Executive Order 11004 allows seizure of all housing and finance authorities to establish Forced Relocation Designated areas to be abandoned as "unsafe."
http://www.disastercenter.com/laworder/11004.htm

Executive Order 11005 allows seizure of all railroads, inland waterways and storage facilities, public and private.
http://www.disastercenter.com/laworder/11005.htm

Executive Order 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.
http://www.disastercenter.com/laworder/11051.htm

Executive Order 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months.
http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/eo/eo-11921.htm

Executive Order 12919 Signed June 3, 1994, by President Clinton. Encompasses all the above executive orders.
http://www.disastercenter.com/laworder/12919.htm

[bearfan454]

76. I knew they had a lot of power

but I didn't know all that. Holy shit.

[seemslikeadream]

96. Yea and look who they put in charge

Brownie

[Freedomfried]

196. Kinda like the UCMJ for America

In other words, they can do what they want.

[deminks]

17. Big Mistake, Smirky. Big Mistake. nt

[Bernardo de La Paz]

177. This is Floodgate! Watergate began with concealing a burglary.

Floodgate is bigger and can't be hidden, though they will try.

Floodgate is to Bush as Watergate is to Nixon.

[glugglug]

18. Let the DESTRUCTION of EVIDENCE commence!

[calimary]

70. Welcome to DU!

I dunno - some media will probably cave to this. But too much has gotten out. And TOO many people know. And TOO many people can tell when something smells FUCKIN' FISHY.

Welcome. We NEED YOU. Obviously now more than EVER!!!

Help us get RID of these criminals!!!

IMPEACHMENT - NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[enid602]

19. **

Guess he didn't like the 'Oprah' show yesterday.

[bunny planet]

40. You got that right. Again, a little late Chimpy, 22 million people already

saw the devastation in NOLA yesterday. Today she'll show pics of Mississippi, and I doubt she'll be showing Trent Lott's house fuckwit.

[Lena inRI]

21. Control freak. . .

Bush Crime Family easily stops photos of draped coffins of Iraq War dead because it's military domain. . .

New Orleans is civilian domain. . .how dare he keep our eyes out!

Hear ye all photojournalists. . .paparazzi. . .rush into NO . . .hide out in NO. . .get those candid shots now!

Vive la resistance!
:grr:

[0007]

22. That is indeed an intelligent thing to do, after all we don't want the

world to know that the rich and wealthy hate black & poor folks. How would it look, if the world viewed the dead in contaminated waters, while other died from thirst, starvation and lack of medications. Perhaps many many could have been saved if there was an urgency by the bush administration to listen to the local authorities. How would it look to the world that not only Iraq is messed up but the United States can't even take care of its own problems and have to have aid from third world countries. How would it look to others on this planet that the U.S. is turning into a third world country with a man just like Kim Jong Il running it.

[nickinSTL]

23. if he's banning the media...

I hate to think what he has planned...
:scared:

[mongo]

24. This may be the one thing the media will stand up and take a stand on

Lead us into a never-ending war under false pretenses? No problem.

Not let Geraldo pretend he's some kind of big time hero resucing old ladies and their dogs - well that's something worth fighting about.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

25. I don't think that's going to work.

[Deere_John]

26. Can't rely on the MSM Anyway.....

There are people inside with digital cameras, cell phone cameras, cell phones, satellite phones, ham and CB radios, Internet links, and all kinds of other stuff. We need to establish a mindset that reporting on the goings on in NOLA is a job that the average person on the street can and must do.

[DBoon]

41. aren't all these people being forceably evacuated?

they've covered that one as well

[Brother Buzz]

27. I guess Oprah's program hit its mark yesterday.

Bush*, you're toast!

[calimary]

94. What did Oprah do?

I missed it. Did she finally take a stand against these thugs? If Oprah ever got on our side, that'd be it for the bushies. She has FAR more influence with people than anyone else. FAR more. I know women whose entire world comes to a stop every mid-afternoon because they have to take their Oprah break.

[Brother Buzz]

128. Indeed, Oprah has influence. Yesterday she wielded it wisely

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4683659

[derby378]

28. We need independent confirmation of this

Can anyone help?

[Tiberius]

29. Any other sources?????

Use a little discretion before posting stuff in Breaking News... I can't find any corroborations anywhere.

[sarcasmo]

30. Watching all the channels I can and nothing new coming from NORLEANS.

Welcome to the new AMERIKA. The new Dictator has taken control.

[Bob3]

33. He needs to hide the heaps of bodies

as they are either put into mass graves or more likely given New Orleans' geography - burned in mass funeral pyres.

It is going to be a grim ugly business - bodies left in 90 degree heat or floating in water for 5-7 days are going to look just awful. If these images get out it will makes *'s weird giggling and odd speeches during his photo op visits look even worse than they do now and could lead people who don't pay attention to such things to think the President is a delusional nut case. So They have to try and keep the press out. I don't think it will work in these days of digital cameras but they don't have much choice.

[KamaAina]

34. Today New Orleans, tomorrow the country...

:scared:

[Lone_Star_Dem]

35. If I were a member of the press this would tick me off big time

They are in effect being punished for reporting the real story.

Why if I were a member of the press I'd start tracking down the survivors and interviewing them. I'd be getting their perspective on what took place in NOLA and who failed whom.

[endarkenment]

36. So I guess that means the body count

is on the high end of the 1,000 - 100,000 range.

Fuck this administration.

Impeach
Indict
Convict
Incarcerate.

Resist Fascism.

[anotherdrew]

38. NOT POSSIBLE - THEY HAVE NO DAMN RIGHT TO DO ANY SUCH THING!

[AbbyR]

46. Unfortunately, that never stopped them before...

I work for a newspaper, and I would LOVE to be sent to NO.
I hope the reporters keep on doing their job. For the first time in years, I've thought the media was keeping on top of an issue. I hope they won't bow down and take it.

[Zhade]

145. Unfortunately, they do - see post #55.

NT!

[chomskysright]

176. what a pack of WHINERS we are: yeyeyeyeyeye: Rove is whistling....

[Tomee450]

39. I find this hard to believe.

This would lead people to believe that the administration was trying to hide something.

[The Sleeper]

43. Scared shitless, aren't they ???

Things must be CRAZY there. Yes, repress us all to cover your sorry asses. The more you fight, the more you get stuck.....

[calimary]

93. Welcome to DU! Yeah, what, indeed, does that tell you?

Golly-gee-whiz, what could there possibly be that they don't want us to know? Hmmmm?

Welcome to the Union of Soviet Socialist America, ladies and gentlemen. Pravda is upon us. So is Big Brother (izzat what those limited-government people in the GOP were so charged up about?).

I hope to God the media resists this. I hope to God they see through it. And above all, I hope to God it's NOT TRUE!!!

IMPEACHMENT NOW!!!!!

As though your life depended on it. Your freedom certainly does.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

44. What are they going to do to the people who are left there?

I fear for their lives...

[Sugar Smack]

45. The media have been KEY in getting NO the help it needs.

KEY. With no output or input Bush has written their deaths. I'm not one for excitability or exaggeration, but he has guaranteed a much greater death toll and finalized it with that.

[Barrett808]

47. This site is a partial mirror

Media apparently banned from NOLA
Posted in Freedom, Grrr..., HFS!, Law, Media at 12:21 by chris

If the report is true, apparently, Katrina spelled the end of our civil liberties as well as the end of New Orleans.

We are in Jefferson Parish, just outside of New Orleans. At the National Guard checkpoint, they are under orders to turn away all media. All of the reporters are turning they’re TV trucks around.

And the legal justification for this is…?

Banning the media is the only way to suppress knowledge of the body count as the waters recede. Note: this is after FEMA has already told the media not to take any pictures of the dead.

The Federal Emergency Management Agency says it doesn`t want the media taking any pictures of the dead in New Orleans.
The agency is leading the rescue effort in the area and has been sharply criticized for its response to Hurricane Katrina.
On Tuesday, FEMA rejected requests by journalists to go out on boats with rescue crews in the city.
A FEMA spokeswoman said part of the reason was because crews needed the space, adding that, quote, “the recovery of the victims is being treated with dignity and the utmost respect.” She says the agency has requested that “no photographs of the deceased be made by the media.”

This is per se unconstitutional. Illegal. Something a totalitarian state does, not a democracy.

http://cmoore.com/2005/09/07/media-apparently-banned-from-nola/

[Julius Civitatus]

48. Operation White Wash in full force

In a few ddays, there would be no dead people in NOLA.

Dead people? What dead people? In New Orleans?

[FreedomAngel82]

214. Exactly

Remember the only way these people are allowed to get away with so much is because of the media. They're all about the PR, so if they are not letting any one else in who's media then something is going to be happening soon.

[redtapeblues]

49. I don't think so.

[calimary]

97. I hope you're correct. Welcome to DU!

If it is correct, then all the more reason to help us

Visualize IMPEACHMENT!!!!!!!!
Then go DO something about it.

[Pirate Smile]

50. Just imagine what would have happened in NOLA if the press hadn't

been there reporting it to the world.

[NYC]

136. More people would have died from lack of care.

Don't forget Michael Brown on Nightline. Homeland Security's FEMA didn't know there were people in the Convention Center.

I guess without Ted Koppel and the media to tell him, he never would have known, and they could have let all those people die.

[Initech]

51. RIP - The First Amendment. 1791 - 2005

We hardly knew ye.:patriot:

[politick]

56. Has Anyone Seen Confirmation of This?

I couldn't even open the link to Bob Brigham, so I don't know what he reported. Does anyone know?

[seriousstan]

61. Nope. Just a blog merry go round. One blog referencing another blog.

I also have a non-working link to Bob Brigham.

I believe this is an exaggeration of the "FEMA limiting photographers" story.

[seriousstan]

52. A blog referencing a broken link. Does anyone have the OP of Bob Brigham ?

I didn't think this kind of link was LBN. Then again I remember the blog report of people eating the dead on LBN also. Perhaps the level of credibility has been lowered.

[Barrett808]

53. See post #47. n/t

[seriousstan]

59. That is also a blog with no link to the actual banning of journalists.

What is true is FEMA will not allow photographers on the rescue boats. I am asking for the link of Bob Brigham's original post stating that Bush has banned the media from NO. That was the original headline of this thread, otherwise it is merely a DUPE of the FEMA thread.

[IndyJones]

71. I don't see that media is banned from NO.

Where is a link? I'd like to read this. I've seen plenty from NO today on the news.

[calimary]

99. This is true, of course. Confirmation IS needed, preferably from several

sources.

GAWD I hope it's not true, although FEMA did say no more photos of the dead. Unfortunately, we do have a template for that - in Iraq.

I just poked my head into the other room where the TV is. Nothing said about such a thing yet, although I wasn't there for very long. Then again, if they were ordered out of New Orleans, how much of a spine would they have to say so? And would they go the next step and demand to know why?

Everything that I've seen the bushies do, and pull off successfully because the media machine is in their corner. I've heard many a speculation here and elsewhere that the reason Nixon failed was because the media wasn't with him. He had adversarial journalism out there, and truly skeptical on-air people. Walter Cronkite helped turn the nation against Vietnam because he spoke out one night on the "CBS Evening News" and denounced the war. That was the turning point, since so many millions of Americans invited him into their living rooms for every dinner hour as they ate in front of the TV. OUR dining room table was always pulled out in the middle of the room, in front of the TV, so we could watch the evening news while we ate. We were Huntley/Brinkley viewers, however. They were powerful and soon enough were on the case on Vietnam, but Cronkite was the catalyst. And through the Nixon years, Dan Rather was White House correspondent, and he gave Nixon hell. On him like a dog on a pants leg (no wonder republi-CONS hated him). The likes of which we sure aren't seeing now, even while some of 'em do seem to be waking up.

With this, if it's true, there's no way to know whether these former Rip Van Winkles will stay awake because things are just a little too fishy to ignore. On the other hand, unfortunately, this asking-probing questions and vigorously challenging lying assertions from government mouths is pretty new stuff. Some of 'em aren't practiced in it, and others are just plain rusty. And say some reporter or editor or maybe the executive producer of some big show like the "Nightly News" or "Today" or "Good Morning America" gets a personal phone call from the White House... Or say the brass upstairs does... and then the aforementioned come into possession of a memo from said brass upstairs, telling them to cool it on the bush-bashing... What if they're not experienced enough, or maybe too cowed and intimidated by earlier such incidents, to know they could defy this if they knew in good conscience that withholding information would be against the public interest. Or if they're a bush-supporter themselves and already favorably predisposed toward giving this schmuck yet another free pass...

What if they're too young to have built up any cynicism? I'm really curious about this one because, judging from the coverage and how visibly, audibly, seriously moved some of these reporters were - Jeanne Meserve of CNN and Geraldo Rivera of Pox were driven to tears on the air while trying to describe what they were seeing or had seen. Others like Anderson Cooper and even that old fart Jack Cafferty were defying the government-issue statements and talking points with WHAT THEY HAD PERSONALLY SEEN. Tells me they haven't been sent to many stories like this, or even remotely like this, like generally to a war zone, or maybe to a hospital or some other situation where they actually see this stuff "up close 'n' personal."

You cannot look upon this stuff and not be moved. EVEN IF you're just talking about it here on the net or you're reading somebody else's coverage/commentary on it, or you're seeing the pictures and hearing the natural sound and hearing the pleas and the cries and the anguish on TV and radio. Most of us here have not been there personally, and may not know anybody there at present. But still, you cannot see or hear or read this stuff and be unmoved. The effect is even more powerful and gripping with the audio/video elements added in. So imagine how it is if you ARE physically there and confronting this stuff directly, full-frontal, literally and personally in-yer-face. It's stunning, shocking, and distressing, and it can really shake your foundations. I'm guessing that many of these folks on the air have never covered anything remotely like this. You pretty much have to go to active combat zones to see this kind of reality. Tucker Carlson and Anderson Cooper both remarked in their on-air presentations about the rats they'd observed. Tucker noted the size of his, while Cooper recalled the rats eating the dead woman's body that was lying in the street. These things stay with you, especially if you've never covered stuff like them before. Those who did are pretty old by now, from the Vietnam era, and they all questioned authority because the war and the government's lies about it and the useless carnage (that everyone was allowed to see) taught them to be skeptical. The older ones will remember. The younger ones may still be getting their sea legs and may not be secure enough to defy such a dictate.

If this directive is true, what the press does about it will be key - to whether the status quo returns with th republi-CONS getting away (now literally) with murder, and nothing's questioned or looked into closely; or they keep taking their calcium supplements and start digging deeper, because they now know how to smell a rat, as well as what one looks like close up.

[AndyTiedye]

183. Some Network CEO's Got Phone Calls from KKKarl Rove

[Julius Civitatus]

54. American Dictatorship

Bush, following the good example of his idol Pinochet.

[freemen2005]

58. illegal!!!

and simply outrageous!

[SlowDownFast]

65. Welcome to DU, freeman!

[calimary]

127. Welcome to DU! Let's hope it's not true.

Holy smokes...

Visualize IMPEACHMENT!!!!!
Then go DO something about it.

[BrightKnight]

62. He does not have the authority to do that.

Louisiana is governed by Louisiana laws.

[seriousstan]

64. Show me where he HAS done this. All I have is a blog post and broken link.

[rodeodance]

67. if it happens it will fall under 'national security" somehow

[Zhade]

147. See post #55.

Then think about the War on (Some) Drugs, and how the feds override states' various legalizations of marijuana for legit patients.

In this country, they have the rights they grant themselves.

It's bullshit, but it's also reality - they have the power to do whatever the fuck they want.

[Vinca]

63. I promised myself I'd remain calm today. I CAN'T!!!!!!!!!!!

[rawstory]

66. Where is the evidence? This is a single-source claim

[ThumperDumper]

68. Didn't anyone follow the links?

It just said the press was prevented from riding on the boats that went to recover bodies.

It says nothing about banning the press from NO. The press can get their own boats and helicopters.

.

[IndyJones]

73. Who doesn't agree that the room in the rescue vehicles

should be available for the victims?

I'd be pissed if it were true that media was banned from NO, but I can't find anything that actually backs that up.

[BrightKnight]

86. All of the victims on these boats are deceased.

I doubt that a journalist would adversely effect the operation.

We embed journalists with the military. Why is this different?

[calimary]

131. Certainly. And Welcome to DU!

I hope-hope-hope that it's not true. And if so, I'd hope that some news organizations went to court to defy it.

[BrightKnight]

77. No good reason to keep the press off of the body recovery boats.

It is not FEMA's job to determine what is and is not appropriate to print. They need to do their jobs and make reasonable accommodations for the press.

[phiddle]

69. MSM should concentrate on this,

a REAL threat to freedom of the press, rather than on Judith Miller, an administration mouthpiece who used freedom of the press to obscure criminal conspiracy. New Orleans strikes at the heart of freedom of the press, whereas the Miller case concerns journalistic ethics and responsibility.

[rodeodance]

72. here is the LA Times story (posted earlier on DU)--

http://www.latimes.com/services/site/premium/access-reg...
KATRINA'S AFTERMATH
FEMA Wants No Photos of Dead
From Reuters

September 7, 2005

NEW ORLEANS — The U.S. agency leading Hurricane Katrina rescue efforts said Tuesday that it does not want the news media to photograph the dead as they are recovered.

The Federal Emergency Management Agency, heavily criticized for its slow response to the devastation caused by the hurricane, rejected journalists' requests to accompany rescue boats searching for storm victims.

An agency spokeswoman said space was needed on the rescue boats.

"We have requested that no photographs of the deceased be made by the media," the spokeswoman said in an e-mail.

[krkaufman]

166. If we're not identifying the victims, then I would think mugshots would...

... be critical, for later identification and verification.

[confludemocrat]

74. 2nd or third coup d'etat of the Bush crime spree

FEMA has banned press from rescue and recovery boats so this reports sounds credible

[NVMojo]

79. ...and is it any wonder most of us don't trust the Iraq coverage??

...and then there are all those murdered journalists ...

[AnneD]

80. It is one thing...

to control the story coming out of a war zone, it is a totally different thing to try it during a natural disaster. He can't spin his way outta this. Like I said on an earlier thread, some of the stories I hear from the refugees are worse than what is published. The truth WILL get out on this. Wheither or not those that voted for Bush choose to believe it is another matter.

[onenote]

81. Sorry, but I call BS on this

Show me a real source...if this was true, the mainstream media would be all over it...yes they've been barred from photographing bodies (a policy that they should fight tooth and nail), but I suspect that the claim that the media has been barred from NO is horseshit (and is going to make those who immediately bought into it look a bit foolish).

onenote

[Telly Savalas]

192. Oh, come on. Play along with it.

The idea is to take our focus off of real issues. Get it?

[JustSayNO 2 Sheeples]

82. Misrepresented

I sure couldn't find a source of this other than an entry on a blog.

I believe this is an over-representation of this story http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1761374 wherein the media is told not to take pictures of bodies and is not authorized to accompany body removal teams.

[Ian David]

83. An iron curtain has descended across New Orleans

Iron Curtain
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Curtain

[EnfantTerrible]

84. I just recieved this email this morning

From Mark Crispin Miller. A friend of his wrote:

The reason Bush keeps taking heavy damage on his failure to respond to Hurricane Katrina is not because the media became suddenly more bold or more inquisitive, as is argued in several op-ed pieces around the nation.

Rather, there are two reasons Bush gets hammered each night on the network news and in newspapers all over the world. First, there are no DoD-controlled press pools similar to the ones covering the Iraq War. This lack of government manipulation allows reporters to freely provide on-the-spot live and factual coverage exposing the lies and the incompetence of FEMA, the GOP, and Bush himself. And, second, there is no massive Pentagon propaganda machine set up in New Orleans or other stricken areas to provide their flat-earth version of "balanced" reporting with dozens of press releases and subject matter experts readily available.

Therefore, I predict two things. First, there will be a massive influx of public affairs con artists from military and FEMA-related government agencies into the region who will relentlessly pound home the message that all is OK. And, second, this new propaganda presence will restrict the media with pool coverage or an outright ban on entry into New Orleans, thus allowing the government to dominate the press coverage of the recover with their message all the time. Without coverage of screaming women and children demanding food, Bush's horrible and deadly failure may slowly recede from view as the water is pumped from the new "Lake New Orleans.'

Once this 24/7 Pentagon propaganda team fires up, they'll then confuse the people with a flood of dubious reports that place more blame on the locals with the clear intent to spread the mud and thus make the Federal response appear not as seriously flawed. The DoD press machine will switch the issue from incompetence (blame Bush) to unexpected and overwhelming (blame the locals).

But the bottom line stays the same: Bush Lies, New Orleans Dies. Bush Fails, New Orleans Bails. And to top it off, Al Queda captured a city in Iraq today, as reported by the Washington Post. With catastrophic failures both at home and abroad, please tell me, how bad does it have to get, how many more thousands must die, before Bush is declared incompetent and removed? And citizens we must also reject Bush's neo-con lunatic, John G. Roberts, Jr., from becoming Chief Justice and continuing lunacy for another two generations.

Give it a few days for the major hitters to come in and snuff the press coverage; meanwhile, wait for the press to lose interest and slowly pull out reporters. Be warned that this is coming. Thus, if we don't continuously pound home the message that Bush failed and up to ten thousand people needlessly died, then Bush may get away with yet another terrible crime against humanity.

[bearfan454]

90. I don't think even DIEBOLD can fix this. nt

[calimary]

138. Lord, I hope THAT doesn't happen.

My husband, however, has periodically made note of how much he suspects the bushies would like to declare martial law.

[Dunvegan]

87. Oh no he won't! Hell, no...Don't Tread On Me...

THE BILL OF RIGHTS
Amendments 1-10 of the Constitution

The Conventions of a number of the States having, at the time of adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added, and as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government will best insure the beneficent ends of its institution;

*snip*

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

[Nictuku]

88. To avoid foreign Invasion?

I GUESS THEY DON'T WANT ANY PICTURES OF THE GOD DAMNED MASS FUCKING GRAVES OF AMERICAN CITIZENS TO GET OUT TO THE PUBLIC BECAUSE

(Another country might find that justification to invade the United States)

*Ahem*

I don't usually swear so much, but I'm extremely angry right now.

[calimary]

140. Welcome to DU! Food for thought there...

Visualize IMPEACHMENT!!!!!
And then go DO something about it.

[Nictuku]

91. Bush won't be Impeached

.... even if by some miracle they don't fix the election in 2006, where we would regain control of the House (where Impeachment articles originate)

And do you know why?

Because it is the Chief Justice who oversees Impeachment proceedings.

Because the new Chief Justice will most likely be John Roberts.

Cronyism at its worst.

[glugglug]

95. The will TRY to fix the 2006 election...

But the media will be more sceptical of it this time, and take a more serious look at the fraud angle rather than largely dismissing it.

Hopefully, the smoking guns become common knowledge this time.

[jwirr]

92. He can ban all he wants! Sooner or later truth comes out.

He doesn't want pictures of the disaster, especially the dead. I hope some of the police/firemen/rescuers have cameras. Don't let bushie do this to us. We are AMERICANS and we have the right to know.

[Lori Price CLG]

98. This is a dupe of no pictures of bodies allowed, right? Or? n/t

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

100. This was very predictalbe...

...and perfectly consistent with the way Bushco operates. They've repeatedly taken temporary hits in the media (perhaps not of this magnitude) and then successfully led their corporate media puppets to an alternative story of distraction. It's what they'll attempt here too.

[onenote]

102. this is very untrue

the media isn't banned. This thread is based on an exaggeration of reports regarding the effort to prevent the media from photographing bodies...

onenote

[kath]

107. see below - various accounts are coming in that the NG is barring media

personnel from entering the city.

[onenote]

they all seemed tied to the no photo policy, not a general ban

onenote

[calimary]

142. How is the media complying with the no-photos-of-bodies directive?

Has anyone even brought it up, on the air?

[Goldom]

101. The media is -not- banned from NO

I just called someone I know (who would know) in the media, and they said no, there was no such thing going on. They had been banned from being on boats going to find dead bodies, which they were fighting, but there is no ban from the city.

[kath]

103. Found this link in the comments at AmericaBlog:

http://cmoore.com/2005/09/07/media-apparently-banned-from-nola/

From a first-hand account:
We are in Jefferson Parish, just outside of New Orleans. At the National Guard checkpoint, they are under orders to turn away all media. All of the reporters are turning they’re TV trucks around.

[beetbox]

105. Welcome to Suave Technocratic Fascism-We Assume Control

Welcome to the New World Order. Welcome. It stands exposed. Right there in New Orleans.

America, welcome to your planned future as a domestic, internal third world. Welcome to personal and public chronic indebtedness. Welcome to a bloated "defense" budget that cannot assist you, let alone "defend" you from a hurricane in the age of science. Welcome to the offensive budget that makes your country dependent on China for daily loans. Welcome to the multicolored ribbons in support of a war that kills your troops—your children, who are not here, not at home to help with their strength, their youth, their bravery, their idealism in pulling you out of the toxic flood waters.

Welcome. Dr. Frankenstein's monster's vengeance is at our door.

http://www.onlinejournal.com/Commentary/090205Bohne/090205bohne.html

[StefanX]

106. They are a cancer on the Constitution

Adieu, America.

[arwalden]

109. Will They Declare It A "NO-FLY ZONE"??

And will they shoot down any news helicopter?

[snowbird42]

111. letter to John

An email I just received from a reader. He's right. Call the White House. 202-456-1414, 202-456-1111. They probably won't listen, but it's time for everyone working there to feel some shame for being part of this conspiracy to dishonor the dead, the dead that THEY caused. If they want to work for Bush, they need to start sharing some of the blame for the deaths he's caused.

Hey there John,

First, thanks for being the voice of conscience through all of this horror we are experiencing here in the south.

I was concerned when I read your comments that the press was being moved out of New Orleans, so I called the White House to voice my concern. I was told by the WH operator that the reason was out of respect for the dead. I told her that I thought it was a bad idea to not chronicle this issue so that we could learn from it, correct what went wrong and make sure there is accountability.

Well the minute the operator heard the buzzword "accountability" she got very testy and insisted that it was not appropriate to show the dead. I told here we saw dead bodies everyday on the news from Iraq and she went a little nuts and said I was "being insensitive." I've got friends I can't find in New orleans and I'm being insensitive? These people need to get real and hear from more Americans.

Please tell people to call 202-456-1414, 202-456-1111 and tell the WH operators that the press need to stay.

Thanks
C...
Atlanta

[Pirate Smile]

110. CNN's helicopter reporter is flying and showing live pictures NOW.

[arwalden]

113. How long before they SHOOT IT DOWN!!!??

[bertha katzenengel]

112. I need something other than a blog entry before I'll believe this is true.

[beam me up scottie]

117. I can't believe this is still in LBN.

After 100+ posts, there is still no verification that this is more than a rumour.

So I guess we get our news from blogs now?

[bpilgrim]

174. "So I guess we get our news from blogs now?" damn skippy

why U think DU is so popular :shrug:



more...
http://globalfreepress.com

psst... pass the word ;->
peace

[beam me up scottie]

191. LBN is popular because it's always truthful and is not pimped out to

conspiroids.

I can't vouch for the rest of DU, but this much I know.

And I guess admin and the mods agree, since they moved it.
:hi:

[bpilgrim]

193. there are blogs that are considered legit sources ie TRUTH OUT

and others... fyi

be that as it may, i find it interesting how some still find this story a conspiracy theory considering all that we know now about the active denial of aid to the point of death to still be skeptical about the media being censored.

i'm sure you think this can all be explained by incompetence.

whatever

peace

[beam me up scottie]

194. I'm sure there's lots of blogs some would consider legitimate

that are notoriously unreliable.

Just as there are SOME blogs that are excellent sources of information.

Those, however, would be the ones that don't allow rumour mongers to use their band-with to spread their propaganda.



And, BTW, you don't have any idea what I think about anything except for my thoughts regarding paranoid proselytizing conspiroids.

And I'm sure you're very much aware of my opinion of them.

Toodles!
:hi:

[bpilgrim]

198. we're talking about DU

"Those, however, would be the ones that don't allow rumor mongers to use their band-with to spread their propaganda."

these days the M$M is more guilty of that them liberal/progressive blogs and another reason why they and we are so popular ;->

though i know many r still fans of the obviously corrupt rumor mongering M$MWs just the same :crazy:

We're Here...

psst... pass the word ;->

http://GlobalFreePress.com

peace

[beam me up scottie]

200. Why do you think people are so protective of LBN ?

Because it's not allowed to be used by anyone to fuel paranoia and spread rumours.

It's where people come when they want to hear the truth, and it should be kept reliable and objective.

There's obviously plenty of room on the other boards for whatever you want to put out there.

[bpilgrim]

201. because we have a diverse group of sources

and all the stories the coincidence theorist have been attacking this past week have all turned out to be TRUE and the ones they've been promoting 'looting' turned out to be mostly RUMORS.

how much you wanna bet that this story is TRUE as well?

do you actually think the media is not being censored?

peace

[beam me up scottie]

202. Really? You mean they did turn the hurricane around in the Gulf?

And they're going to turn on the gas and exterminate everyone in the Astrodome?

And the troops went in and killed mothers and babies because that was the plan all along?

I could go on, but I'm sure you see where I'm going with this.

No, I don't think THIS story is true but I DO think they have been censoring the media from the get-go.

So please save the false dilemma for someone who isn't wise to your tactics.

The "You're either with us or agin' us" cowboy crap got old back in 2001.

I'm surprised you need to resort to using that.

Why can't you just peddle your wares without attacking everyone who disagrees with you?

The buy-bull salesmen down here don't even do that.

[bpilgrim]

203. haven't seen that story or the other ones you suggested being posted here

as legit stories but we do know that the feds have actively denied aid and left people to starve to death in the streets for days. if they are capable of that kind of BRUTAL MURDER they are capable of anything.

they have been caught actively disrupting communications spreading vicious rumors about looting and sending in armed forces who ignored those in need.

and as we both know they are also actively censoring the media.

"but I DO think they have been censoring the media from the get-go."

i guess to some if you don't kill them with explosive force there is no culpability or loss of trust.

most of us know better by now.

though to some it is all just a coincidence of ineptitude.

thats all i got to say on the matter to you, good night :hi:

peace

[beam me up scottie]

204. Too bad pct's are so obsessed with

making others believe in their "theories" that that they constantly attack the true liberal progressives who are actually doing something to get our country back.

I really must agree with this post by Jeff Brandt from NYC INDYMEDIA:

There are many people who believe the government lied about 911. Of course... they lie about everything. But that's not the same as proven culpability, nor planning and arranging it. It's like the commnent above... "that's the problem with you people, you need PROOF!"

Well, no shit we need proof. That's why the Indypendent is a newspaper and not a conspiroid rag that prints any garbage submitted to it. That's why NYC Indymedia at least ASPIRES to be a source of trust-worthy information and not a playpen for rumor-mongering droolers.

The failure of these newswire stalkers to understand the difference between the rank speculation of racially-tinged conspiracy theories and reporting with veracity is what is at issue.

G'nite, y'all.

[bpilgrim]

217. Too bad ct's are so obsessed with

making others believe in their "theories" that they constantly any other as not being a 'true liberal' - whatever the fuck that means - and not worthy of discussion.

let's just say that some are for FREE-SPEECH and getting at the UGLY TRUTH and some are in the way.

excuse me

peace

[chomskysright]

178. piffle!!

[longship]

114. Un-fucking-Constitutional!!!

n/t

[Jack Rabbit]

115. I doubt this

The media may have been subservient to Bush for the last five years, but they aren't that subservient. They don't like it when the government keeps them from getting a story.

There has been no mention of this in any major outlet or on the wire services. If this were actually happening, they'd be throwing a hissy fit.

[snowbird42]

116. from Kos

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/9/7/151343/4581

[snowbird42]

118. This seems real to me

[caligirl]

119. Reuters news article link.

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N06101601.htm

[Ramsey]

133. This story needs confirmation

All of the media links are about not photographing the dead, and all of the links about banning the media entirely from NOLA are from bloggers.

Has anyone seen any official confirmation of this story from an actual news outlet? Not that I wouldn't believe it, but I seriously doubt they can get away with this, not for long.

[anitar1]

160. Watching Wolfe Blitzer about 25 min ago--Soledad

O'Brien reporting via webphone--CNN plane showing overhead shots but nopt close-ups. Then a report from Baton Rouge with covered by a camerman. So there are no photo's coming out of NO.

[chomskysright]

181. HERE ya go: 'utmost respect' my ass: they can't GETEM out fast enuf

U.S. agency blocks photos of New Orleans dead
07 Sep 2005 00:56:29 GMT

Source: Reuters

NEW ORLEANS, Sept 6 (Reuters) - The U.S. government agency leading the rescue efforts after Hurricane Katrina said on Tuesday it does not want the news media to take photographs of the dead as they are recovered from the flooded New Orleans area.

The Federal Emergency Management Agency, heavily criticized for its slow response to the devastation caused by the hurricane, rejected requests from journalists to accompany rescue boats as they went out to search for storm victims.

An agency spokeswoman said space was needed on the rescue boats and that "the recovery of the victims is being treated with dignity and the utmost respect."

[donheld]

120. Is this an Iron Curtain the US has erected?

Seems to me like it is.

[lumpy]

121. Maybe this ties in with so many

journalists being offed in Iraq. Military decisions?

[Giant Robot]

123. I would suggest that this is not part of some nefarious

Bush plot. If it's true this seems more to me to be an example of an administration that does not know how to handle crisis. I don't really think he has anything evil planned. I doubt he has any plans. He is not a man, nor is this an administration, that can take feedback and make changes. He's "staying the course" not matter what.

[calimary]

149. Welcome to DU!

All the more reason to get IMPEACHMENT proceedings started. Doesn't know how to handle crisis - so what if another crisis comes along that IS terrorism? They didn't learn anything from 9/11 but bureaucracy and peeing on turf and usurping power and rewarding cronies?

I think, mainly, they're circling the wagons because they simply don't want to be wrong. bush certainly doesn't. This would ruin his track record for self-proclaimed and Almighty-anointed perfection. I think it may just be a simple as "it's all about me" with him. First priority is how all this impacts him and his chances of getting what he wants out of people. That's why it's all a big PR job and some of the media is now actually calling it as such. What happens to others less fortunate than Mr. Divine Right is their own fault. They don't really count, anyway. They're merely "the help." As ol' bar says "they were underprivileged anyway." Besides, they don't vote for me anyway, so screw 'em.

[chomskysright]

182. GET A LIFE: Malevolent Neglect & now martial law:

glad to have u here Giant Robot but you'se a chillun, I can see.

[realFedUp]

124. Controlling the visuals

These people are absolutely anal about
controlling what people will see through the MSM.
I'd love to know who Bush's Photo Op Czar is...
that is hard work.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

130. Hard work?

I'll showya hard work:

http://www.karlandkinggeorge.com/Hard_Work.html

[realFedUp]

lol

now THAT was hard work.

[SlowDownFast]

143. Great illustration. Simple, yet effective.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

154. Thank you. nt

[blindpig]

132. they understand

how television works on the human mind. I believe there is something about how our visually oriented primate mind works that make the old phrase"seeing is believing" more than trite.
Blow up the tv.

[reprobate]

125. NO is Bush's Tar Baby. The more he flails about, the stucker he gets.

[donheld]

126. There needs to be Civil Disobedience from the media this time. nt

[caligirl]

134. I hope the ACLU will be making a statement soon!!

[steely]

135. media control - isn't t hat what they did behind the iron curtain?

and we support Radio Free America in some countries - or is that an anachronsism?

Bush is such an ASSWIPE.

[DLnyc]

137. Time to ban BushCo from restricting the press.

What I would like to see is for Dem leaders to get off their asses and put out the following bill:

"In view of Article I of the Constitution of the United States of America, which reads:

'Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.'

and in view of Section I of Artice I, which reads:

'All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.'

this Congress hereby orders that the Executive of the United States shall never, under any circumstances, restrict members of the press from their constitutionally guaranteed free and unlimited access to all places, events, images, groups of people, and any other thing which they may deem of interest; and, further, any and all standing executive orders which currently violate this order are hereby declared null and void."

P.S. That includes banning photographers from photographing coffins and dead bodies, Dickhead!

[calimary]

151. Welcome to DU!!!

It would be nice of the Dems stood up, period.

Meanwhile, visualize IMPEACHMENT!!!!
Then go DO something about it.

And hope this is NOT confirmed. Because as a nation, we cannot afford to have information choked off.

[blonndee]

139. PLEASE STOP! This is not confirmed!!!!

We're all going to start screaming at the media and reps and look like idiots when it turns out to be untrue!!

[snooper2]

141. Thank you, everyone freaking out over one statement on one blog

Amazing actually...

The skies falling! The skies falling! RUN RUN RUN RUN RUN!!!!!!


I need to start a blog..... :evilgrin:

[DLnyc]

148. Yes, banning press apparently unconfirmed, but 'requested . . . bodies not

be photographed' is at least published by Reuters. Also, I don't think there is any question that BushCo has for several years ordered(?) requested(?) (certainly almost completely enforced) that no coffins back from Iraq are photographed, and I have no doubt is constantly doing everything it can to prevent access to various other fuckups.

The Congress is not supposed to intimidate the press, and certainly the Executive (ie his majesty Bushroveney) should all the more so be prevented from doing so. IMHO.

[slackmaster]

155. Don't oil-spay a good ant-ray

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

[countingbluecars]

144. If the death toll is as high as predicted,

banning the media from photographing the dead might very well be enforced as a total ban of the press. Aren't bodies surfacing throughout the city? This could be really bad.

[against all enemies]

146. shoot photographers on site?

[goforit]

150. WTF???????????

[goforit]

152. THis is a ............TYRRANNY!!!!!!

Come on AMERICA!!!!

[genius]

153. What does he not want us to see?

[savemefromdumbya]

158. all the tens of thousands of dead putrifying bodies

....like not showing us the hundreds of coffins coming back from Iraq. He doesn't want the 'herd' (Bush voters) to see the tens of thousands of dead bodies floating in the water or left in houses or he may lose more votes? Martial law.

[anitar1]

161. The truth. n/t

[Rainscents]

156. This ia full of shit... It's NOT going to happen!

[HEyHEY]

157. I'm calling bullshit until I hear it from the media

And mark my words - this will be made into a big deal if it's true

[moondust]

159. Why does Bush hate freedom?

Why do Republicans in general hate freedom? I've always wondered why but was afraid to ask.

[PurpleChez]

189. Al Franken's explanation is the best:

Liberals look at gov't as they do their spouse -- they love him/her but know that he/she is falible. Conservatives see gov't as Mommy, and Mommy is never, ever wrong. Social conservatives are like small children who, as they are just learning about "rules," insist that the rules be enforced with complete rigidity. They want gov't to protect them from anything that challenges their existing beliefs.

[WinkyDink]

162. Dead people??

No. Officially and for all time, just "missing".

And survivors will never know, as they are now scattered to the four winds.

[jn32706]

163. did you know that GWB was running a concentration camp

did you know that GWB was running a concentration camp
in Texas.
those poor people can't leave!!
this is a concentration camp-gas.

[countingbluecars]

170. You kid,

but things are happening in this country that I would have never imagined. GWB is evil.

[yurbud]

164. already called my senators and told them to loudly complain

[savemefromdumbya]

165. good idea let's all call our members of Congress

and call into local radio stations and write letters to newspapers. Call in on CSPAN

[onenote]

171. yeah...let's all look stupid

The claim that all media have been banned from New Orleans is unconfirmed and almost certainly untrue. If you want to call and complain that the media is being requested not to photograph bodies, be my guest. But if you call and say that "Bush has banned all media from New Orleans", the folks you call are going to treat you...correctly...as just another crank caller.

onenote

[CorwinB]

167. Ah, but you see...

Allowing reporters to take pictures of dead people in NO would embolden future hurricanes. And we don't want that, don't we ?

[salvorhardin]

168. Why is this in LBN?

It's a rumor from a blog. AmericaBlog may be one of the AAR sanctioned blogs, but it's still a blog. There's not even a link to the particular blog entry the OP is posting about: http://americablog.blogspot.com/2005/09/breaking-military-stopping-media-from.html

This is ridiculous! Not only is it a blog entry, but it's based off a blog entry on another site and that site is erroring out with a 403 Forbidden error.

What a fucking joke.

[William769]

169. Better question is why are the Admins allowing it to stand?

[salvorhardin]

173. Well, I've alerted

And didn't think calling out the mods or the admins would be helpful.

I really thought we were better than this though.

[savemefromdumbya]

172. This photo says it all - Bush playing his guitar while Orleans floooded...

see the photos at http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/

Quote:Bush on the Gulf Coast in his role as Slim Witless, the yodeling moron. At least Saddam Hussein didn't play the guitar while he killed his own people.

[PatrioticLeftie]

179. This goes against the Constitution

What the fuck are they doing to our country? I miss America, I hate living in Bush's Murika.

[Massachusetts]

180. "Bush banning all media from New Orleans"

I smell R-E-V-O-L-U-T-I-O-N, rid the Nation of Facism! Bring Democracy Back to OUR country.

[alarimer]

184. Let the cover-up begin

Fuck these people. I hope journalists find a way in anyway. I doubt Anderson Cooper and the others who have been doing a fine job so far will stand up for this. At least they will ask the hard questions: What are you trying to hide Mr President? How many people are you going to kill today? And what is the death toll so far? Are you covering your ass? Of course they won't answer these. We all heard Scotty's "We don't want to play the blame game". Well guess what? It is too late. Everyone is already blaming you and when the Dems win the next Congressional elections in a landlide, the impeachment proceedings will begin but not before repealing the Patriot Act and dismantling the Department of Fatherland Security. (I am dreaming I know).

I don't just want the entire Bush Administration and their cronies in Congress in jail. No, I want them to SUFFER. I want them to lose everything- to see their family die in a flood or of cancer or something. I wish all kinds of horrible things to happen to them. I do, I am sorry, I am not a nice person these days. But death is too good for these fuckers.

[Name removed]

185. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[stepnw1f]

186. Lookin More and More Like the former Soviet Union

Yup... 10 years ago, this shit alone would have gotten a President impeached.

[ClusterFreak]

187. I like John a lot, but I think this was an irresponsible post on his blog.

[PurpleChez]

188. Bushland, Bushland Über Alles

How much longer can *'s zombies delude themselves into thinking that he's anything but an incompetent would-be tyrant. We must regain Congress in '06 and hold Herr Busch responsible for everything he has done, up to and imcluding impeachment.

[cynatnite]

190. It's not there...just a link to another article n/t

[jn32706]

195. concentration camp in Texas

we need to find out if GWB is fixing to run a concentration camp in Texas.

[jn32706]

197. The Dispossessed families of Hurricane Katrina

The Dispossessed families of Hurricane Katrina I hear will be going to
Las Vegas next to spend there $2,000.
They will be leaving by bus with-in the next few days.
The first stop will be
the MGM GRAND.

[Jamastiene]

199. Hmm... I do know of sites that will have pictures, but they will

most definitely be as gruesome or worse than the Iraq war photos. If there are mass graves, it can't be in NOLA, because they are below the water table (sea level). Those living nearby can watch for strange activity by our military that is more secretive than usual. I do wonder why they didn't use heat sensing infrared scopes when they finally did go in there. They could have saved a few of those trapped in their attics. This is beyond a disgrace and a tragedy, IMHO, it's dereliction of duty by our government.

[lonestarnot]

205. Time to override!

[FreedomAngel82]

206. What?!

Even faux???

[gatorboy]

208. Aren't these the same people that salivated over the Nick Berg video?

How many Repugs did we hear about calling for the Nick Berg beheading to be broadcast nationwide so we can see the horror of what happened?
Suddenly they don't want us seeing death?

[DanCa]

210. And didn't the chimp promise swift capture of those that killed Berg

They also had no qualms about the passion of christ either.

[lebkuchen]

212. He may as well blame Laura while he's at it.

That would cover everyone Bush is in bed with.

[flyarm]

213. is there a link to this breaking story???????? n/t

[gatorboy]

215. Here:

http://www.mediainfo.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001055768

[beam me up scottie]

216. No, there never was.

It was probably a rumour that spun off from the true story about FEMA not allowing the journalists to photograph the dead.

I REALLY hope nobody actually called the newswires and/or their reps to complain about a fake story that they heard on DU.
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