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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 12:03 AM
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I just had dinner with Peter Yarrow, ask me anything!!!
My boss, an attorney, is the former law partner of our local state rep, who happens to be good friends with Peter Yarrow. Knowing that I am the ultimate, all-time, true-blue Peter Yarrow and Peter, Paul and Mary fan (I've seen them in concert three times now, and at age four was listening to their albums in my grandmother's basement, I credit their music with helping to awaken my activist side), he invited my boss and I to a private concert and dinner at a local restaurant tonight. I didn't know it was coming until my boss, who left this morning for vacation in Mexico with his wife, casually mentioned it on the phone this afternoon, then had to hold his cell phone away from his ear while I whooped and hollered and danced about the office, lol!

Folks, it was ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC!!!!! Never in my wildest dreams did I ever imagine I'd be sitting two feet away from him while he sat at a restaurant table with his guitar, singing and interacting with his small, invited audience, after sitting at the same table with him to eat dinner!!!! I'm still pinching myself to make sure it really happened, lol! I told him about the times I'd seen Peter, Paul and Mary in concert; I also told him about how I used a verse from his anti-war song The Great Mandella as one of the quotations by my senior picture for my high school yearbook, (Take your place on the Great Mandella, as it moves through your brief moment of time, win or lose now, you must choose now, and if you lose you've only wasted your life), which he got a real kick out of. He's one of the most down-to-earth, unpretentious, unassuming, sincerely friendly person I've ever met, which, given his forty-plus-year career, was really refreshing to see. I STILL can't believe it, what a great way to start the weekend!

The only sour note was arguing about the phony-baloney malpractice "crisis" with a couple of doctors who were there, and who assumed that, because I was a paralegal, I was a greedy money-grubber who worked for a greedy, grasping, money-grubbing attorney.

I loved the looks on their faces when I told them he was a real estate and business attorney who probably wouldn't have any clue at all how to handle a personal injury or malpractice case, and who barely made enough money to pay me and his overhead and that if it weren't for his title company he'd be pretty much broke, and that that was the case with an awful lot of attorneys in solo practice or small firms.

I also politely but firmly made clear that the REAL health care crisis was the total meltdown of the system, the millions of uninsured and underinsured, those lacking access to health care because of its for-profit nature, the people getting thrown in jail by hospitals using "body attachments", if they're uninsured and can't afford their treatment, the horrendous overcharging of the uninsured, the 18,000 deaths a year due to lack of insurance (which I believe is a conservative estimate), the fact that half of bankruptcy filings are due to medical bills, the fact that we don't have health care in this country, we have "wealth care", etc., etc., etc.

Then they started in with that bullshit about European and Canadian "socialist" system being a mess, people waiting years for treatment, etc., etc., and I politely but firmly rebutted that as well. I had to explain that most lawyers do not, and cannot afford to, take "frivolous" cases, that there's a lot of work and expense involved in even the simplest legal matters, etc., etc., and the doctors explained about the constant stress and strain of their jobs as well.

It really made me think about how both professions have a totally different idea of what the other involves and stereotypes and misconceptions abound on both sides, and got me wondering what could be done about it.

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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 12:06 AM
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1. Ah, that's great. He is a great guy. We take our kids to see
them at least once a year. They just keep getting better and better.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 12:15 AM
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4. They certainly do, don't they?
Hard to believe it's been 44 years since they first started, which was before I was even born! From what I've heard, Paul Stuckey and Mary Travers are just as nice as Peter, and I have no trouble believing that.
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 12:10 AM
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2. Lucky you
you've inspired me to pull out my P,P&M cd. :)
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 12:15 AM
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3. Hmmm....
If the doctors' problems are with malpractice, here's a little statistic I came across last week: "From the beginning of 2001 through May 2002, there were 6,083 malpractice suits referred to the Texas Board of Medical Examiners. Not one case was reviewed by the Board. No doctor in Texas has lost a license since 1987."

The upshot is, if the doctors think malpractice rates are too high, they need to help get rid of bad doctors, instead of protecting them.

Just because someone has a professional license doesn't mean they graduated at the head of their class.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 12:19 AM
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6. I know, and I tried to make that clear,
but they just didn't want to hear it. Guess it's hard for doctors to deal with the fact that some of their own actually can be negligent and cause people a lot of suffering, pain and even death. I also tried to make clear that attorneys also can be and often are sued for malpractice, and that their insurance is very high as well, even if they've never been sued. And most sure as hell ain't rich, either.
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 12:15 AM
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5. "Body Attachments"???
the people getting thrown in jail by hospitals using "body attachments", if they're uninsured and can't afford their treatment

Although I'd heard about all the other horrors you mentioned in the paragraph that mentions this I've never heard of "body attachments" and I'm stunned. It sounds positively Dickensian. Please tell us more and provide a link or two if possible. Please.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 12:23 AM
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7. There were several threads on it
Edited on Sat Feb-14-04 12:25 AM by liberalhistorian
a couple of weeks ago, I don't know how to link to them, though. The threads discussed the recent Wall Street Journal series on medical collections and how hospitals are now one of the most aggressive debt collectors in the country, using a "body attachments" , a rarely used, but unfortunately all-too-legal collection method, to have people, usually uninsured and lower-income, arrested and thrown in jail for nonpayment of their medical debts. And these were for things like pneumonia, viral meningitis, miscarriages, etc. Guess it's now illegal to get sick if you're uninsured.

Could someone who knows the threads and knows how to link them please try to do so?
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 04:30 PM
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12. Amy Goodman had a segment about "body attachments" on
Democracy Now! in January. This guy in Champaign, IL had a hospital bill from the late 1980s that he had been making payments on. The collection agency for Carle Clinic didn't think he was paying enough over the years. They would issue a summons to him and he missed one court date. The cops came and arrested him and put him in jail. When asked why he was put in jail he was told about body attachment. He had no property so the hospital could not place a lein against anything except his body.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 12:39 AM
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8. Let's go back to the old days
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 12:53 AM
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9. Wow, now
that's an OLD picture of them, lol! That looks like the pictures of their first few years together. Peter got a real kick out of the fact that I was such a fan at "such a young age" (I'm 39), until I said I'd been one for about 35 years. That REALLY made him feel old.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 01:06 AM
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10. Noel had no hair even then?
Man, that dude has bald longer than I have.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 03:38 PM
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11. He's always been somewhat bald,
he's just more so now that he's a lot older.
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