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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 06:55 AM Original message |
Mandatory Registration of All Firearms (Kalifornia - Sponsored by a Democrat) |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 06:58 AM Response to Original message |
1. And it'll get just as far as if some Rep proposes we have mandatory school prayer. |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 07:02 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Agreed |
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Katya Mullethov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 07:08 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Mein Feuer would agree as well |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 07:09 AM Response to Original message |
4. California, who can tell..... |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 07:24 AM Response to Original message |
5. To drive I sure had to give a lot of personal infomration to the MVD. |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 07:27 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Driving is a privilege |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 07:36 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. And nobody is taking your right away. So what's your point? |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 10:49 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. No, it's not, actually. |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 10:59 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Really? You can purchase a car without registering even if it's for personal use? |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 11:02 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. As long as you |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 11:10 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Yes, many farmers and construction companies around here do it for work-only vehicles. |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 11:17 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. But you still need the original registration that the purchase was made, no? |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 11:24 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. No. You do not need to make a registration when purchasing a vehicle. nt |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 11:29 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. No, all you need is the title |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 11:59 AM Response to Reply #20 |
27. But the DMV was contacted in the process. That's a form of registration |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 12:03 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. No it's not |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 12:05 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. But the DMV has a record of the title, with your name on it. Thats a form of registration |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 12:12 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. You are completely wrong. |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 12:16 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. But the title comes from the MVD. It has your name and the vehicles win number on it |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 05:51 PM Response to Reply #37 |
67. No, it's not. |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 12:20 PM Response to Reply #32 |
40. No its not a form of registration |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 12:23 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Same damn thing with this gun registration. Thats the point |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 12:41 PM Response to Reply #43 |
51. You appear to be unfamiliar with the process of purchasing a firearm |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 12:43 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. No, you aren't reading what I am writing in context. That is not what I said |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 12:45 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. That makes no sense |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 12:47 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. we were talking about how registration happens even for vehicles |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 05:53 PM Response to Reply #58 |
69. "That turned out to be not true."? Which bit? |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 05:52 PM Response to Reply #43 |
68. By that logic, we already have gun registration. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 01:03 PM Response to Reply #32 |
64. You do not even need a new title.. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 12:36 PM Response to Reply #11 |
45. A sales contract is not a State registration. n/t |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 11:05 AM Response to Reply #7 |
14. Why the fuck does |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 11:18 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. If you have illegal guns for one. Second if someone steals you gun. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 11:27 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Registration does not affect illegal guns. |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 11:39 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Except your phone, your TV, your cell phone, can't kill people |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 11:49 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Gun registries have never proven very effective in returning stolen guns compared to regular reports |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 11:52 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Is someone asking you for your DNA when you buy a gun? No? Then whats your point |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 12:10 PM Response to Reply #25 |
35. You're being intentionally obtuse. |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 12:18 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. And most of what you just said is perfectly valid. |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 12:22 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Yes it does |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 12:29 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Because what you own in this case can and has killed many people |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 12:37 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. My guns have killed many people? |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 12:42 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. Me personally? I would love for criminals to know I own guns, they probably wont break in |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 12:50 PM Response to Reply #52 |
60. Sorry |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 12:41 PM Response to Reply #25 |
49. What do you mean when you say "illegal gun"? n/t |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 12:44 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. Stolen. And I know what you are about to say, before you do read my posts again |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 01:38 PM Response to Reply #55 |
65. Well, I only buy guns from known legitimate sources... |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 03:53 PM Response to Reply #22 |
66. I have been around the world 3 times with no passport. n/t |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 11:37 AM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Illegal guns? |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 11:39 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. You can buy guns from anyone right now. A gun owner might purchase a gun that was stolen |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 11:54 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. A registry is not required to perform a background check on a firearm. |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 11:59 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. It doesn't. But most people dont call the cops when they buy a gun, I would think |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 12:08 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. In california... all firearms sold to anyone are sold through an FFL with a background check. |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 12:20 PM Response to Reply #33 |
41. Even if you buy from a private party? |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 12:39 PM Response to Reply #41 |
48. Once again |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 12:41 PM Response to Reply #41 |
50. Yes... to be legal, a private sale MUST go through an FFL dealer. |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 12:46 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. I didn't know private sales worked like that too. I wonder if that's the case here in NM |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 12:49 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. No... NM is extremely Lax |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 12:52 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Damn, so if my gun is stolen here I dont even have to report it? |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 12:57 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. In NV |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 12:43 PM Response to Reply #41 |
53. Yes. Private-party transfers are processed through an FFL, with a background check |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 12:54 PM Response to Reply #41 |
62. Registration does not instantaneously remove your rights... |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 12:08 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. And why the hell should they call the cops |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 12:17 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. The point is currently if you are buying a stolen gun you have no way of knowing |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 11:59 AM Response to Reply #23 |
29. Once again |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 06:38 PM Response to Reply #17 |
70. speaking of stolen guns |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 10:21 PM Response to Reply #7 |
71. Deleted message |
cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 10:25 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. You are so wrong |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 11:10 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. That's the 'bear' portion of 'keep and bear'. n/t |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 12:37 PM Response to Reply #5 |
47. May I see your First Amendment Registration papers, please? |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 07:40 AM Response to Original message |
8. We've already had two threads on this |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 07:43 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Sorry about that |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
13. Registration usually leads to confiscatoin... & this measure does NOTHING increase gun track-ability |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
30. Feuer is dumb-ass and it will never pass. |
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